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Post by bunkerfan on Mar 15, 2013 13:11:12 GMT
Martin Barre plays lead guitar on this track from John Wetton's album "Caught In The Crossfire" Drums-- Simon Kirke Producer, Engineer-- John Punter Vocals, Bass, Producer, Keyboards -- John Wetton....Enjoy. www.youtube.com/watch?v=7RwM1lYqcQwA maddogfagin/bunkerfan Production
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Post by nonrabbit on Mar 15, 2013 16:48:30 GMT
Nice one
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Post by Tull50 on Mar 15, 2013 18:50:31 GMT
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Post by jackinthegreen on Mar 15, 2013 20:15:50 GMT
Not for me......... What a dated sound, like one of those big hair 80's bands.... He wont get back in Ian's favour doing crap like this..... I'm surprised at the brilliant Simon Kirke playing on it too.....
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Post by bunkerfan on Mar 15, 2013 21:24:05 GMT
Not for me......... What a dated sound, like one of those big hair 80's bands.... He wont get back in Ian's favour doing crap like this..... I'm surprised at the brilliant Simon Kirke playing on it too..... It'll grow on you. Believe me.
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Post by tullist on Mar 15, 2013 21:45:04 GMT
I expect most of what Martin does to borderline suck, though that last version of his band up in the north very definitely did not, I think essential that he keeps whoever that moderately traditional dude was playing the wind instruments. The Pat O May dude I am sure is a highly competent player, but strikes me as something of an average hammerhead. That last Martin solo record was not bad in the least, but my memory of the Summer Band with those 2 girls, Maggie Readay was one, and his first 2 solo records, with some exceptions, in the main, sucked. Of course I hope he returns, though I would not be certain he is superior to the young man Flo as a player, more a compliment to Flo. Cause Martin burns, and Ian is right, he had improved tremendously since the heyday, when only out of loyalty would I have mentioned him among the greats, his faults became too apparent at solo time. Not always, but often. No longer true.
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Post by steelmonkey on Mar 15, 2013 21:58:05 GMT
three great martin moments for me include: The post ' jimi came to England' solo he does on the Ticketron bootleg between Loco and Wind Up...just lets himslef go as wild as he can in fairly obvious hendrix homage....then the Jump Start solo in 88 when he wails loud and long enough to be the sound for the dozen fake guitarists on stage...he really pulls it off...and last, the amazing Not Solo on Spiral....whe he just plain does not play a note...just allows a tiny sliver of feedback...where the guital solo goes...and it turns out amazing.
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Post by tullist on Mar 15, 2013 22:08:34 GMT
three great martin moments for me include: The post ' jimi came to England' solo he does on the Ticketron bootleg between Loco and Wind Up...just lets himslef go as wild as he can in fairly obvious hendrix homage....then the Jump Start solo in 88 when he wails loud and long enough to be the sound for the dozen fake guitarists on stage...he really pulls it off...and last, the amazing Not Solo on Spiral....whe he just plain does not play a note...just allows a tiny sliver of feedback...where the guital solo goes...and it turns out amazing. I am sure either of us could cite at least 50, including pretty much every note, (in my case most days excluding that start/stop stuff on Back Door Angels)he has ever recorded on a Tull record, as that has to pass the all assessing eye of the headmaster. But what is a surprise to me is how tasty his playing is on that Jan 69 Stockholm bootleg, that Martin's tune is certainly as close as Tull ever came to an open ended jam ala the Grateful Dead, (not that that would have been a desired route necessarily, especially in light of what they did instead) and darned if it isn't excellent. Part of the problem was the time, where the guitar player will go off for ten minutes, as will the drummer, and much of it, though definitely not all, does not speak to me, though it may have in 1972, I sort of cannot remember. I do recall UK opening back there somewhere, and you could pretty much draw the line between those born before or after 1958 as to those who found appeal in them. Wankery, first class. Pretty much can use that defining line for those who find appeal in Queen or Rush too, uniformly true, no, in the main, yes. I guess mostly I need some roots in folk or blues, for the classical influences, why the hell would I listen to ELP or Yes with the real thing around? Though I must say ELP mostly kicks ass on that IOW 70 video, I would say just as good as Tull or the Who, and, very oddly, likely the most punk in performance of any of them. Having said that, I am not sure they got more than one song on it, most did, and they would still have had the chance to bore me, maybe when they gave me their visionary take on Mussorgsky or Tchaikovsky, but I don't recall they're beginning to annoy me until Brain Salad, and certainly by Works. Greg Lake's dreamy vocals worked so well on some of that Crimson stuff, but the rock star blues of Still You Turn Me On, uh uh. Crazed Institution though, spot the f**k on. A friend pointed out to me that it might be my precious Dead being referred to in the line, "You can wear a crown of roses upon your cranium" but overall they would hardly have fit the intent of the song. Ian Anderson was MUCH closer to being a rock star than anyone in the Dead ever was. Garcia an icon to be sure, but anyone in that organization who ever got full of themselves, (Weir has occasionally veered that way)will get laughed into submission.
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Post by steelmonkey on Mar 15, 2013 22:21:12 GMT
ELP was the loudest thing I ever saw......thought I 'lucked out' to score great seat in second row far left in front of speakers....lucky to have some hearing today.
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Post by jackinthegreen on Mar 15, 2013 23:02:21 GMT
Not for me......... What a dated sound, like one of those big hair 80's bands.... He wont get back in Ian's favour doing crap like this..... I'm surprised at the brilliant Simon Kirke playing on it too..... It'll grow on you. Believe me. No chance, hopefully I'll never hear it again, one and a half times was enough....
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Post by jackinthegreen on Mar 15, 2013 23:08:00 GMT
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Post by tullist on Mar 15, 2013 23:22:13 GMT
Whereas I think his skills might best be shown on Stand Up, TAAB, Roots and.....the Christmas Album! Yes, I am serious.
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Post by nonrabbit on Mar 16, 2013 7:19:03 GMT
It'll grow on you. Believe me. No chance, hopefully I'll never hear it again, one and a half times was enough.... ;D
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Post by broadsword on Mar 16, 2013 10:30:20 GMT
three great martin moments for me include: The post ' jimi came to England' solo he does on the Ticketron bootleg between Loco and Wind Up...just lets himslef go as wild as he can in fairly obvious hendrix homage....then the Jump Start solo in 88 when he wails loud and long enough to be the sound for the dozen fake guitarists on stage...he really pulls it off...and last, the amazing Not Solo on Spiral....whe he just plain does not play a note...just allows a tiny sliver of feedback...where the guital solo goes...and it turns out amazing. Funny how we hear things differently, I think Martins guitar on the Jump Start stuff is shocking........ He can't do that kind of stuff..... His studio stuff, like the solo on Black Satin Dancer.... .....that's different... Check this out jackinthegreen, have a listen to the "In Concert" cd, go straight to "Jump Start", Martin's playing is 5 star, especially his bit after the false ending.
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Post by jackinthegreen on Mar 16, 2013 15:24:04 GMT
I don't like it Broadsword, but each to his own.. I have seen Tull live many, many times over the years, and mostly it's great, but Martin's solo's never impress me. He tries too hard I think, sometimes even the solo he plays on Aqualung is terrible, keep it simple, at times less is more. He has said he likes to play a different solo each time, well that's not possible....... Ian was always boasting about how clever and complicated their music was, which always made me cringe, so maybe Martin thought his solo's had to be ..........clever I'd rather have feel than difficulty every time.
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