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Post by nonrabbit on Jan 17, 2013 8:23:19 GMT
There's been a right few over the years Tell is your favourite or just the latest you come across. "...of course it keeps better time than a drummer, but it's not as much fun." on drum machines from a 2000 article here; www.soundonsound.com/sos/nov00/articles/soundingoff.htm"Tull's drummer had been Barriemore Barlow, a fantastic musician with superb technique. He wasn't a 'swinger', like Keith Moon or Clive Bunker -- he played it straight down the line. What did Anderson mean? If Barriemore Barlow couldn't keep time then who could"?
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Post by nonrabbit on Jan 17, 2013 8:31:35 GMT
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Post by maddogfagin on Jan 17, 2013 9:18:41 GMT
“The flute is an instrument that doesn't lend itself very readily to rock music. It's a gentle and sensitive instrument. To make it work at rock 'n roll levels, you really have to push it pretty hard.”
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Post by bunkerfan on Jan 17, 2013 15:55:30 GMT
"I've got a lousy voice and the flute's pretty handy — you can always stick it in your back pocket."
NME 7 March 1970
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Post by steelmonkey on Jan 17, 2013 17:08:10 GMT
As far as Ian's assessment that APP fans belong in locked facilities...well....here i am...still have a key but that could change at any moment.
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Post by tullist on Jan 18, 2013 14:00:44 GMT
I can probably grab one as good or better than what I am about to post in most interviews with Ian of greater than 3 minutes. However I do think enough of this one that I have it amongst 4 or 5 other quotes I think in that area of one's Facebook page set aside for such things. Various celebrities were being asked a few years back about what they would want inscribed on their headstones. Ians was..."Any chance of a wake up call?"
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Post by nonrabbit on Feb 12, 2013 9:14:51 GMT
One from the misty vaults of truth or fiction ...anyone know? An anecdote about Ian Anderson and Robert Plant which may explain the frosty relationship that (did?) exist between them. It seems Ian Anderson once said that with his lyrics and Led Zeppelin’s music, they’d really have a good band going, a statement with which Robert Plant took great offence.
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Post by maddogfagin on Feb 12, 2013 9:45:53 GMT
One from the misty vaults of truth or fiction ...anyone know? An anecdote about Ian Anderson and Robert Plant which may explain the frosty relationship that (did?) exist between them. It seems Ian Anderson once said that with his lyrics and Led Zeppelin’s music, they’d really have a good band going, a statement with which Robert Plant took great offense. "...I can´t remmber what it was, it was Zeppelin ..., we already toured with Zeppelin in 69, we were their Supportband, and we all got on well with Jimmy Page and Peter Grant the Manager, and even with John Bonham, ..., but for some reason, probably entirely unimportant and lost in the mist of time, Robert Plant and I never got on, ... whatever the reason or reason´s were, i´m absolutely prepared to take the blame for, because I do recall, in what I thaught was good spirit, making some, not badly intended, comment in Melody Maker, ... with my lyrics and Led Zeppelins music, we could be quite a good little rock´n Roll Band or something like that, cause I so stupidly ... not remembering of course that Robert Plant actually wrote the lyrics ..." forums.ledzeppelin.com/index.php?/topic/4752-robert-plant-and-ian-anderson-no-friends/
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Post by steelmonkey on Feb 12, 2013 16:34:05 GMT
Right...and year later Plant said something like ' he writes songs like a bricklayer'. I've always thought Black Satin Dancer is pretty much a Zepp tribute...not the words, of course...the music.
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Post by futureshock on Feb 12, 2013 22:28:15 GMT
You know, drummers being slightly off perfect timing does add character to a piece, and skillfully applied, the rushed or delayed timing can add a sense of emotional release of the music and be linked to what other instruments are doing.
On a tangent, one of the great charms of a ukulele is that the soprano ones often have at least one string slightly off perfect intonation, if not even two or three strings, and if not manufactured to great care, the fret intonation may be off too, yet in the balance, that Hawaiian twanging just sounds right the way it is, it's like the sound of a river, not the sound of a clock.
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Post by jackinthegreen on Feb 12, 2013 22:42:40 GMT
One from the misty vaults of truth or fiction ...anyone know? An anecdote about Ian Anderson and Robert Plant which may explain the frosty relationship that (did?) exist between them. It seems Ian Anderson once said that with his lyrics and Led Zeppelin’s music, they’d really have a good band going, a statement with which Robert Plant took great offense. "...I can´t remmber what it was, it was Zeppelin ..., we already toured with Zeppelin in 69, we were their Supportband, and we all got on well with Jimmy Page and Peter Grant the Manager, and even with John Bonham, ..., but for some reason, probably entirely unimportant and lost in the mist of time, Robert Plant and I never got on, ... whatever the reason or reason´s were, i´m absolutely prepared to take the blame for, because I do recall, in what I thaught was good spirit, making some, not badly intended, comment in Melody Maker, ... with my lyrics and Led Zeppelins music, we could be quite a good little rock´n Roll Band or something like that, cause I so stupidly ... not remembering of course that Robert Plant actually wrote the lyrics ..." forums.ledzeppelin.com/index.php?/topic/4752-robert-plant-and-ian-anderson-no-friends/Didn't Ian add........ Then he wrote Stairway to Heaven.........or something along those lines.....
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Post by nonrabbit on Feb 12, 2013 22:46:02 GMT
"...I can´t remmber what it was, it was Zeppelin ..., we already toured with Zeppelin in 69, we were their Supportband, and we all got on well with Jimmy Page and Peter Grant the Manager, and even with John Bonham, ..., but for some reason, probably entirely unimportant and lost in the mist of time, Robert Plant and I never got on, ... whatever the reason or reason´s were, i´m absolutely prepared to take the blame for, because I do recall, in what I thaught was good spirit, making some, not badly intended, comment in Melody Maker, ... with my lyrics and Led Zeppelins music, we could be quite a good little rock´n Roll Band or something like that, cause I so stupidly ... not remembering of course that Robert Plant actually wrote the lyrics ..." forums.ledzeppelin.com/index.php?/topic/4752-robert-plant-and-ian-anderson-no-friends/Didn't Ian add........ Then he wrote Stairway to Heaven.........or something along those lines..... Nah!! that'd be taking it too far
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Post by jackinthegreen on Feb 12, 2013 23:10:11 GMT
He did Non-rabbit......... I think Ian recognised that Stairway was a nice song, and certainly a departure from their usual stuff.............. It's funny (peculiar) really, that Ian should have had that conversation at all, and for him to (even jokingly) cosy up to Jimmy Page and flatter his music, given that for the early part, and a lot of it......all Zep were doing was stealing the existing blues songs....... Something which Ian hated, and consequently why Mick Abrahams departed and the band took a new direction.
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Post by nonrabbit on Feb 13, 2013 7:15:22 GMT
He did Non-rabbit......... I think Ian recognised that Stairway was a nice song, and certainly a departure from their usual stuff.............. It's funny (peculiar) really, that Ian should have had that conversation at all, and for him to (even jokingly) cosy up to Jimmy Page and flatter his music, given that for the early part, and a lot of it......all Zep were doing was stealing the existing blues songs....... Something which Ian hated, and consequently why Mick Abrahams departed and the band took a new direction. I stand corrected young man, thank you ;D I read that huge, coffee table book, out fairly recent about Led - there was scant mention of any Tull stories in it May I point you in the direction of out TullnLed thread ;D jethrotull.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=general&action=display&thread=981Ps May I also take this opportunity for any Newbies/Oldies and Inbetweenies and invite you to peruse the many threads and witterings that have gone on for the last five years. You might find the odd interesting one.
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Post by maddogfagin on Feb 13, 2013 8:50:06 GMT
He did Non-rabbit......... I think Ian recognised that Stairway was a nice song, and certainly a departure from their usual stuff.............. It's funny (peculiar) really, that Ian should have had that conversation at all, and for him to (even jokingly) cosy up to Jimmy Page and flatter his music, given that for the early part, and a lot of it......all Zep were doing was stealing the existing blues songs....... Something which Ian hated, and consequently why Mick Abrahams departed and the band took a new direction. Or he could have been taking the p1ss as Stairwway To Heaven, at least the intro, is a direct rip from Taurus by Spirit Uploaded on 11 Nov 2010 by TheSoundtrackBeast
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Post by nonrabbit on Feb 13, 2013 13:38:33 GMT
He did Non-rabbit......... I think Ian recognised that Stairway was a nice song, and certainly a departure from their usual stuff.............. It's funny (peculiar) really, that Ian should have had that conversation at all, and for him to (even jokingly) cosy up to Jimmy Page and flatter his music, given that for the early part, and a lot of it......all Zep were doing was stealing the existing blues songs....... Something which Ian hated, and consequently why Mick Abrahams departed and the band took a new direction. Or he could have been taking the p1ss as Stairwway To Heaven, at least the intro, is a direct rip from Taurus by Spirit Uploaded on 11 Nov 2010 by TheSoundtrackBeast and don't forget this; I still love them though for the music and the memories
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Post by jackinthegreen on Feb 13, 2013 21:15:06 GMT
Or he could have been taking the p1ss as Stairwway To Heaven, at least the intro, is a direct rip from Taurus by Spirit Uploaded on 11 Nov 2010 by TheSoundtrackBeast and don't forget this; I still love them though for the music and the memories Nice clips guys......... And the theme is definately there... My IA quote was about Plant's lyrics to Stairway, rather than the tune.......... I think Ian was dissing Plant's lyrics until he heard Stairway, which was for the most part original, and not just copying the old blues guys. I think some previous posts have even discredited that... So they stole the tune and words...... It's a wonder they didn't write Hotel Califonia first........
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Post by nonrabbit on Feb 13, 2013 22:03:41 GMT
It's a wonder they didn't write Hotel Califonia first........ "....you know, it’s not plagiarism. It’s just the same chord sequence. It’s in a different time signature, different key, different context. And it’s a very, very fine song that they wrote, so I can’t feel anything other than a sense of happiness for their sake. And I feel flattered that they came across that chord sequence. But it’s difficult to find a chord sequence that hasn’t been used, and hasn’t been the focus of lots of pieces of music. It’s harmonic progression is almost a mathematical certainty you’re gonna crop up with the same thing sooner or later if you sit strumming a few chords on a guitar...." Ian Anderson www.songfacts.com/blog/interviews/ian_anderson_of_jethro_tull/
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Post by jackinthegreen on Feb 14, 2013 0:01:39 GMT
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Post by nonrabbit on Mar 7, 2013 14:21:26 GMT
Quote from a while back.
"Paul Newman has his salad dressing and the money goes to charity..I'm just the Colonel Sanders of smoked salmon.."
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Post by nonrabbit on Mar 30, 2014 15:41:51 GMT
He did Non-rabbit......... I think Ian recognised that Stairway was a nice song, and certainly a departure from their usual stuff.............. It's funny (peculiar) really, that Ian should have had that conversation at all, and for him to (even jokingly) cosy up to Jimmy Page and flatter his music, given that for the early part, and a lot of it......all Zep were doing was stealing the existing blues songs....... Something which Ian hated, and consequently why Mick Abrahams departed and the band took a new direction. I remembered this thread/post when I read this today - well I'm a woman - I don't forget anything. www.positivelynaperville.com/2013/09/10/jethro-tulls-ian-anderson-talks-with-dr-music/26610Dr. Music: If you met somebody that had never heard Jethro Tull music, what would be the first song that you’d play for them? Ian Anderson: Umm… (slight pause) “Stairway To Heaven” -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Dr. Music: (laughs) You know, that’s the best answer I could’ve imagined, actually! Ian Anderson: Well, you know, in a way, “Stairway To Heaven” is a good example of that era of British music. It combines some elements of very Americanized rock and roll, blues, but it also has an airy, almost sort of medieval kind of English feel about it. I think Led Zeppelin are one of the groups, and in spite of their origins being very much blues and rock based, they really did increasingly start to use more eclectic and folky forms of music as the basis of a lot of their later work. I think that’s a good introduction to Jethro Tull, because that’s exactly where we come from at about the same time. I think there is quite a tangible link there between some of our peers and us. I always felt, in a way, closer to Led Zeppelin musically than I did to, perhaps, Yes or the early Genesis. Zeppelin had a rough edge. They had a rawness and an attack, which was something I always wanted to keep in touch with as well, not just to get too musically clever, or too musically precise. So, yeah, I would say first song listen to “Stairway To Heaven,” and then maybe listen to something from, I don’t know…. the title track from Songs From The Wood.
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Post by nonrabbit on Mar 30, 2014 15:57:05 GMT
from the same interview;
"...Obviously, we all like to read a good spicy biography where Keith Richards tells us what size penis Mick Jagger has, but I’m afraid I’m just not made of that stuff.."
He did say that he would write fiction at some point as it's an " extension of lyric writing"
I really hope that's true.
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Post by jackinthegreen on Mar 31, 2014 22:10:12 GMT
He did Non-rabbit......... I think Ian recognised that Stairway was a nice song, and certainly a departure from their usual stuff.............. It's funny (peculiar) really, that Ian should have had that conversation at all, and for him to (even jokingly) cosy up to Jimmy Page and flatter his music, given that for the early part, and a lot of it......all Zep were doing was stealing the existing blues songs....... Something which Ian hated, and consequently why Mick Abrahams departed and the band took a new direction. I remembered this thread/post when I read this today - well I'm a woman - I don't forget anything. www.positivelynaperville.com/2013/09/10/jethro-tulls-ian-anderson-talks-with-dr-music/26610Dr. Music: If you met somebody that had never heard Jethro Tull music, what would be the first song that you’d play for them? Ian Anderson: Umm… (slight pause) “Stairway To Heaven” -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Dr. Music: (laughs) You know, that’s the best answer I could’ve imagined, actually! Ian Anderson: Well, you know, in a way, “Stairway To Heaven” is a good example of that era of British music. It combines some elements of very Americanized rock and roll, blues, but it also has an airy, almost sort of medieval kind of English feel about it. I think Led Zeppelin are one of the groups, and in spite of their origins being very much blues and rock based, they really did increasingly start to use more eclectic and folky forms of music as the basis of a lot of their later work. I think that’s a good introduction to Jethro Tull, because that’s exactly where we come from at about the same time. I think there is quite a tangible link there between some of our peers and us. I always felt, in a way, closer to Led Zeppelin musically than I did to, perhaps, Yes or the early Genesis. Zeppelin had a rough edge. They had a rawness and an attack, which was something I always wanted to keep in touch with as well, not just to get too musically clever, or too musically precise. So, yeah, I would say first song listen to “Stairway To Heaven,” and then maybe listen to something from, I don’t know…. the title track from Songs From The Wood. I like Ian's words there nonwabbit...... Nice find........ Award yourself a gold star......
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Post by karma41 on Mar 31, 2014 23:15:21 GMT
He did Non-rabbit......... I think Ian recognised that Stairway was a nice song, and certainly a departure from their usual stuff.............. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Dr. Music: (laughs) You know, that’s the best answer I could’ve imagined, actually! Ian Anderson: Well, you know, in a way, “Stairway To Heaven” is a good example of that era of British music. It combines some elements of very Americanized rock and roll, blues, but it also has an airy, almost sort of medieval kind of English feel about it. I think Led Zeppelin are one of the groups, and in spite of their origins being very much blues and rock based, they really did increasingly start to use more eclectic and folky forms of music as the basis of a lot of their later work. I think that’s a good introduction to Jethro Tull, because that’s exactly where we come from at about the same time. I think there is quite a tangible link there between some of our peers and us. I always felt, in a way, closer to Led Zeppelin musically than I did to, perhaps, Yes or the early Genesis. Zeppelin had a rough edge. They had a rawness and an attack, which was something I always wanted to keep in touch with as well, not just to get too musically clever, or too musically precise. So, yeah, I would say first song listen to “Stairway To Heaven,” and then maybe listen to something from, I don’t know…. the title track from Songs From The Wood. Unfortunately, LZ didn't in fact write the melody for Stairway to Heaven. They borrowed it from a folk artist from the 60s.
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Post by steelmonkey on Mar 31, 2014 23:50:50 GMT
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Post by nonrabbit on Apr 7, 2014 14:11:50 GMT
"It's folk-prog-metal, apart from the church influences,the classical influences and a bit of latin!"
discussing Homo Erraticus
"You have a box that says Ian Anderson, and another box that says Jethro Tull, but inside both boxes it's the same old cornflakes"
Both quotes form Prog mag which I purchased today - the only copy in the newsagents bought by the only progger in the village.
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Post by Equus on Apr 7, 2014 14:19:17 GMT
"It's folk-prog-metal, apart from the church influences,the classical influences and a bit of latin!"
discussing Homo Erraticus "You have a box that says Ian Anderson, and another box that says Jethro Tull, but inside both boxes it's the same old cornflakes"
Both quotes form Prog mag which I purchased today - the only copy in the newsagents bought by the only progger in the village. That's very interesting! Did Ian say that?? That's exactly what I would say... The quote about the cornflakes...
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Post by nonrabbit on Apr 7, 2014 14:33:31 GMT
"It's folk-prog-metal, apart from the church influences,the classical influences and a bit of latin!"
discussing Homo Erraticus "You have a box that says Ian Anderson, and another box that says Jethro Tull, but inside both boxes it's the same old cornflakes"
Both quotes form Prog mag which I purchased today - the only copy in the newsagents bought by the only progger in the village. That's very interesting! Did Ian say that?? That's exactly what I would say... The quote about the cornflakes... He did say it in the interview in this months Prog mag - I wouldn't dare quote him otherwise.
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Post by nonrabbit on Apr 7, 2014 14:38:37 GMT
and what he said before it was;
"We're sort of branded on the supermarket shelf under different titles,and I think that's probably quite a good idea...."
and before I get into trouble from Prog Mag may I say that my £7.99 was very well spent on such a beautifully illustrated extremely informative magazine- apart form the sexist cartoon about Kate Bush unless the Misadventures of Prog Boy is set in the 70's.
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Post by Equus on Apr 7, 2014 14:41:23 GMT
That's very interesting! Did Ian say that?? That's exactly what I would say... The quote about the cornflakes... He did say it in the interview in this months Prog mag - I wouldn't dare quote him otherwise. Of course not... I was just taken aback by this statement... This brings Ian in line with the fans that have been saying that the name really doesn't matter. The content is pretty much the same...
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