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Post by broadsword on Jan 2, 2013 16:02:46 GMT
Those 3 shows about the British invasion of the US, (musically speaking), have been repeated on BBC? lately. I watched them and I cannot for the life of me think how Herman's Hermits ever made it big stateside. They were contemporaries of Cream/Tull/Who/Led Zep and had a thin, tinny, watery, peelywally, (is that correct nonrabbit?), sound. There are a "zillion" candidates who qualify for this thread in their own right, it's just that in whichever of the 3 BBC shows it was, HH were lumped alongside Tull, Led Zep, the Yardbirds, The Nice, among others.
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Post by steelmonkey on Jan 2, 2013 18:08:54 GMT
Well...harmless, lightweight pop crap has always been around and often snuck in to dine at the table of real rock and roll...think of all the John Denvers and Carpenters and Barry Manilow types clogging the charts since day one. At least the worst offenders are obviously money making hit machines and can be avoided and ignored.....I summon up more hate for guys like Steve Miller or John Mellencamp or Billy Joel who actually get taken seriously for their dreck.
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Post by maddogfagin on Jan 2, 2013 18:36:43 GMT
Those 3 shows about the British invasion of the US, (musically speaking), have been repeated on BBC? lately. I watched them and I cannot for the life of me think how Herman's Hermits ever made it big stateside. They were contemporaries of Cream/Tull/Who/Led Zep and had a thin, tinny, watery, peelywally, (is that correct nonrabbit?), sound. There are a "zillion" candidates who qualify for this thread in their own right, it's just that in whichever of the 3 BBC shows it was, HH were lumped alongside Tull, Led Zep, the Yardbirds, The Nice, among others. My Mother's best friend had a son who played for 1 or 2 gigs with Herman's Hermits deputising for the guitarist who was ill. Apparently they were awful and rubbish players. It pissed my Mother off as well 'cos he borrowed a stool so he could look cool on stage, and never gave the blighter back. Such is the price of "near" fame.
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Post by steelmonkey on Jan 2, 2013 18:59:50 GMT
Years after their moment had come and gone...Peter Noone as Herman played a small club in Denver...probably about 1972...and I took a pretty but uptight rabbi's daughter named Karen Weiss...I think i got a few kisses and copped a feel...so let's not be too hasty in condeming the hermit man to hell
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Post by nonrabbit on Jan 2, 2013 21:47:41 GMT
Years after their moment had come and gone...Peter Noone as Herman played a small club in Denver...probably about 1972...and I took a pretty but uptight rabbi's daughter named Karen Weiss...I think i got a few kisses and copped a feel...so let's not be too hasty in condeming the hermit man to hell America went wild for Peter Noone - must have been his cute, cheeky, Brit smiley face like Davy Jones. My mother was staying in a hotel where Hermin's Hermits were playing - she complained about the hysteria Speaking of my embarrassing mother - she sat next to the guitarist from Vinegar Joe (he told her) on a loooong (for him) trans atlantic flight. She told him all about my love for Cat Stevens and showed him pics
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Post by steelmonkey on Jan 2, 2013 23:57:53 GMT
There are pictures of your love for Cat Stevens ? Are they online?
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Post by tullist on Jan 3, 2013 0:35:27 GMT
That nearly boggles the mind to think Herman's Hermits were mentioned alongside any of the others you name, (though I would need to see the show and context to be certain)on any count other than possibly mentioning ALL the British acts that made it stateside in the sixties. I think it was George Harrison who made reference to how long years took in the sixties, particularly after LSD. Although 4 years now goes by like a week used to, the four years that separate America's awareness of Herman's Hermits from LZ and Tull are a vast cultural chasm. (btw, though I know it only as a bootleg as of yet, that recently released Zep show from 07 is more than I bargained for, I actually prefer it to what I know of most of their old live stuff. Giving credit where it is due since I have given him stick, Jimmy Page is very close to stupendous, and apparently with some broken bone in his playing hand or wrist) But getting back to Hermans Hermits their actual stablemates were of course the Beatles, in a very general sense the Stones and Animals, Gerry and the Pacemakers, Billy J Kramer and the Dakotas, Peter and Gordon, the Dave Clark Five all of whom I like to some extent...until you get to Herman's Hermits. Even at 8 or 9 I found them barely tolerable, to me precursors of the Partridge Family, and to only a slightly lesser extent, The Monkees.
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Post by nonrabbit on Jan 3, 2013 7:42:51 GMT
There are pictures of your love for Cat Stevens ? Are they online? ;D pictures of me - I'm sure he already knew what Cat Stevens looked like.
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Post by maddogfagin on Jan 3, 2013 9:09:46 GMT
That nearly boggles the mind to think Herman's Hermits were mentioned alongside any of the others you name, (though I would need to see the show and context to be certain)on any count other than possibly mentioning ALL the British acts that made it stateside in the sixties. I think it was George Harrison who made reference to how long years took in the sixties, particularly after LSD. Although 4 years now goes by like a week used to, the four years that separate America's awareness of Herman's Hermits from LZ and Tull are a vast cultural chasm. (btw, though I know it only as a bootleg as of yet, that recently released Zep show from 07 is more than I bargained for, I actually prefer it to what I know of most of their old live stuff. Giving credit where it is due since I have given him stick, Jimmy Page is very close to stupendous, and apparently with some broken bone in his playing hand or wrist) But getting back to Hermans Hermits their actual stablemates were of course the Beatles, in a very general sense the Stones and Animals, Gerry and the Pacemakers, Billy J Kramer and the Dakotas, Peter and Gordon, the Dave Clark Five all of whom I like to some extent...until you get to Herman's Hermits. Even at 8 or 9 I found them barely tolerable, to me precursors of the Partridge Family, and to only a slightly lesser extent, The Monkees. Must agree about the 07 Zep show - damn fine concert if the boot I've got of it is anything to go by. As for Herman's mob, for me they were always the kind of outfit your Mother liked and subsequently became reduced to the bottom of the pile when discussing music with your friends. The Beatles/Stones/Tull versus Herman's Hermits and their ilk - no contest
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