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Post by bunkerfan on May 1, 2012 14:06:44 GMT
A Song for Jeffrey featuring Martin Barre guitar, Geoff Dunn drums, Jonathan Noyce bass and Frank Mead who sang the song,from the recent mini tour in 2012. Enjoy. www.youtube.com/watch?v=eTV3RUu-gGsA maddogfagin/bunkerfan Production
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Post by nonrabbit on May 1, 2012 18:46:53 GMT
Like the way you've put the video together John.
I know it's early days in this eventful Tull year however that's not doing much for me - I'm not that fussed on the vocals.
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Post by tullist on May 1, 2012 19:19:15 GMT
Knowing audio concerns on You Tube I know not to read too much into it. For instance I have yet to see the first video from the TAAB tour that I would post, though a couple came close, good in all departments save for the non existence of lower frequencies, an important element to be missing in any music, certainly Ian's. I do hope a proper video recording is made of this tour, more than once I have said the greatest travesty in rock and roll history, certainly Jethro Tull's, is the near non existence of video from 71 thru 5, specifically of the Thick as a Brick tour. Those now 4 downloads from the UK tour all rectify the missing lower frequencies problem, very listenable indeed, High Wycombe the latest entry. Might even be 5 i have, have only listened to Newcastle, dead marvelous, but have the others on good report. Re Martin thru it all I can hear the band kicks ass, not surprising with he and Noyce in it, maybe Doane to follow. Less impressed, and I believe this would be true even with a stellar recording, with the guy playing harp and the guy singing. Sounded second rate bar room band in that respect, and I have top respect for actual bar room heroes...say Dave Alvin.
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Post by steelmonkey on May 1, 2012 19:54:56 GMT
Early impression of the MB Band videos: Would I still buy a ticket and go? yes, Am I impressed: No....
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Post by bunkerfan on May 2, 2012 7:01:33 GMT
Knowing audio concerns on You Tube I know not to read too much into it. For instance I have yet to see the first video from the TAAB tour that I would post, though a couple came close, good in all departments save for the non existence of lower frequencies, an important element to be missing in any music, certainly Ian's. I do hope a proper video recording is made of this tour, more than once I have said the greatest travesty in rock and roll history, certainly Jethro Tull's, is the near non existence of video from 71 thru 5, specifically of the Thick as a Brick tour. Those now 4 downloads from the UK tour all rectify the missing lower frequencies problem, very listenable indeed, High Wycombe the latest entry. Might even be 5 i have, have only listened to Newcastle, dead marvelous, but have the others on good report. Re Martin thru it all I can hear the band kicks ass, not surprising with he and Noyce in it, maybe Doane to follow. Less impressed, and I believe this would be true even with a stellar recording, with the guy playing harp and the guy singing. Sounded second rate bar room band in that respect, and I have top respect for actual bar room heroes...say Dave Alvin. I'm not impressed with this recording of Martins band. Frank Mead on vocals sounds like he's singing down a toilet. But, how much of it is simply down to the recording equipment used. I take your point on sound quality on youtube video's. The problem is, officially you're not allowed to record anything from a live concert, and while it's relatively easy to smuggle in a little camera into the venue, it might be a bit harder (or impossible) getting away with using professional recording equipment at any concert. BTW. I recorded those video's at Newcastle using my little trusty Lumix DMC-LZ20.
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Post by maddogfagin on May 2, 2012 9:01:31 GMT
As with many concerts, the live experience is 100% better than the recorded one and I would accept the criticisms leveled at the quality of singing if, as is the case here, only the recorded results are heard. To summerise, the actual concert was excellent and a worthwhile event to have been witness to. OK so it was strange not to have IA on vocals but, in all honesty even with his singing “problems”, he is the focal point with things concerning Jethro Tull. As I see it, the problem that Martin Barre may have with “New Day” is convincing punters that it is anything other than a tribute band. He has as much right to perform the music due to his 40+ years with the band and the obvious contributions that he has made to the music over the years but how many non Tull fans realise this? One criticism that I would level at the band is the lack of a keyboard player. Pat O’May is a good guitar player but was underused on the night leaving me with the impression that his involvement with the band is mainly for European consumption where he is better known. I would also expect that Martin may have contractural difficulties keeping the present lineup together as the participants have other musical ventures which they participate in. Time will tell with this. As for the actual venue, it’s a smallish auditorium but with excellent acoustics and the band were spot on with their playing and the vocal qualities were very good, something that is not obvious from the you tube video. However, and this is where I think the problem may lie, The Wharf in Tavistock (and I can’t speak for the other venues as I wasn’t there) is known for presenting a fair range of tribute bands and I’ve posted the venue’s current listing below as an example, so “New Day” is lumped together with the Led Zep and Phil Collins tribute acts. The non committed concert attendees will see them as a tribute act along with all the others. So my ideas would be (1) use Pat O’May only when playing in Europe, (2) hire a keyboard player - Andy Giddings would be my suggestion, (3) advertise the band as performing the music of Martin Barre and his obvious contribution to the beast that is Jethro Tull and (4) avoid the obvious pitfalls of playing concerts where tribute acts seem to be the flavour of the month. Finally to the vocalists in the group, and this is something that would not come over in the sound clip, learn the words before hand. Don’t have the lyrics on a lectern in front of you as this would only give the impression that you’re only doing these gigs as a sideline and are not really serious in what you’re doing. Having said all this, it was still a damn fine concert which I would not have missed. I look forward to hearing how their concerts later on this year and into 2013 pan out.
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Post by tullist on May 2, 2012 12:21:35 GMT
Knowing audio concerns on You Tube I know not to read too much into it. For instance I have yet to see the first video from the TAAB tour that I would post, though a couple came close, good in all departments save for the non existence of lower frequencies, an important element to be missing in any music, certainly Ian's. I do hope a proper video recording is made of this tour, more than once I have said the greatest travesty in rock and roll history, certainly Jethro Tull's, is the near non existence of video from 71 thru 5, specifically of the Thick as a Brick tour. Those now 4 downloads from the UK tour all rectify the missing lower frequencies problem, very listenable indeed, High Wycombe the latest entry. Might even be 5 i have, have only listened to Newcastle, dead marvelous, but have the others on good report. Re Martin thru it all I can hear the band kicks ass, not surprising with he and Noyce in it, maybe Doane to follow. Less impressed, and I believe this would be true even with a stellar recording, with the guy playing harp and the guy singing. Sounded second rate bar room band in that respect, and I have top respect for actual bar room heroes...say Dave Alvin. I'm not impressed with this recording of Martins band. Frank Mead on vocals sounds like he's singing down a toilet. But, how much of it is simply down to the recording equipment used. I take your point on sound quality on youtube video's. The problem is, officially you're not allowed to record anything from a live concert, and while it's relatively easy to smuggle in a little camera into the venue, it might be a bit harder (or impossible) getting away with using professional recording equipment at any concert. BTW. I recorded those video's at Newcastle using my little trusty Lumix DMC-LZ20. Now looking at the tenor of my post from yesterday I don't like my part with the reference to the You Tube posts of Bunkerfan and others. Just a small clarification, merely delineating what I would share to my Facebook page, be it known my gratitude for your efforts. Particularly Bunkerfan as he was the first one with video from the front.
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Post by bunkerfan on May 3, 2012 13:22:36 GMT
I'm not impressed with this recording of Martins band. Frank Mead on vocals sounds like he's singing down a toilet. But, how much of it is simply down to the recording equipment used. I take your point on sound quality on youtube video's. The problem is, officially you're not allowed to record anything from a live concert, and while it's relatively easy to smuggle in a little camera into the venue, it might be a bit harder (or impossible) getting away with using professional recording equipment at any concert. BTW. I recorded those video's at Newcastle using my little trusty Lumix DMC-LZ20. Now looking at the tenor of my post from yesterday I don't like my part with the reference to the You Tube posts of Bunkerfan and others. Just a small clarification, merely delineating what I would share to my Facebook page, be it known my gratitude for your efforts. Particularly Bunkerfan as he was the first one with video from the front. Thank you tullist. I very much appreciate your continued support. Cheers bunkerfan
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