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Post by stevep on Jan 14, 2012 23:40:36 GMT
Anyone got any idea what is said (in what seems like a very Scots accent to me) at the very end of "Up the Pool"? It is on the new mix Aqualung 40 years version and also the LITP version.
It almost sounds like "get out that black velvet" but not really sure. I am Scots so I should understand it... wondered for years though!
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Post by hawkmoth on Jan 15, 2012 1:01:39 GMT
'Good old Blackpool' to my deafend ears
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Post by nonrabbit on Jan 15, 2012 10:29:18 GMT
Anyone got any idea what is said (in what seems like a very Scots accent to me) at the very end of "Up the Pool"? It is on the new mix Aqualung 40 years version and also the LITP version. It almost sounds like "get out that black velvet" but not really sure. I am Scots so I should understand it... wondered for years though! Ahm a Weegie an hiv nae mair a o' clue as you hiv. It's sounds authentic too and not some sassenach pittin it oan "Yeah Yeah Get off ma......." and thats as far as I get. Of course it refers to the Fair Fortnight when all the, mainly Weegies, would descend on Blackpool for two weeks of mayhem in July. ;D I heard one criticism of the 40th super duper offering and that was that there was no lyric sheet in the package something that Tull always included. May I also add for the geeks like us an explanation of that last lyric on UP To Me would have been a nice touch as well but then it's probably lost in the passage of time. Steven Wilson surely must have asked too though
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Post by phil on Jan 15, 2012 10:41:10 GMT
Just a guess but might have something to do with the old roller coaster cars, "the Velvet coaster"
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Post by nonrabbit on Jan 15, 2012 12:38:40 GMT
'Good old Blackpool' to my deafend ears On second thoughts you might be right - I listened to it loud without headphones (for the 40000 time in my life) and it could be someone putting on a Scottish accent and saying; "Good Old Blackpool" however they say something else at the end
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Post by hawkmoth on Jan 15, 2012 13:46:46 GMT
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Post by stevep on Jan 15, 2012 17:46:00 GMT
I think Hawkmoth is right and it is "Good old Blackpool" as Andy Giddings says. Still not 100% convinced though - only about 99.8%
It seems even Jack Hicko does not know. For those who have not seen him on youtube, the guy does a very good copy of Tull's music and he is even starting to look like the man himself. Probably needs to be a bit more grumpy though!
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Post by nonrabbit on Jan 15, 2012 22:06:17 GMT
Jack Hicko has Up The Pool down to a fine art - the accent is the best I've heard from an American nonlancastrian.
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Post by steelmonkey on Jan 16, 2012 1:25:04 GMT
Roy Harper's version ended with 'Good Old Blackpool' and Tull/Ian/Andy seem to have done so since. I don't think those are the words at the end of the original...something about 'velvet', i think
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Post by nonrabbit on Jan 16, 2012 8:53:39 GMT
I think I've sussed it with my early morning ears. It's someone impersonating a Scots accent or a "Northern one" and saying.. "Get off ma shoulder" Up The Pool was the trickiest song ever to try and sing along too bad enough for us Brits let alone anyone else. I used to mumble along to "sun-tanned stranded starfish in a daze" and never got "old vests"
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Post by corner of the sphere on Jan 16, 2012 9:14:01 GMT
I used more than early morning ears, had to as it's already the late afternoon here. I slowed the music down to 25% of its original speed, removed the bass to make the voice clearer and I reckon, a very thick scots accent as stevep points out, says "Good old Black pill ooool". I've tried to attach this short wav file excerpt. Attachments:
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Post by nonrabbit on Jan 16, 2012 9:37:24 GMT
I used more than early morning ears, had to as it's already the late afternoon here. I slowed the music down to 25% of its original speed, removed the bass to make the voice clearer and I reckon, a very thick scots accent as stevep points out, says "Good old Black pill ooool". I've tried to attach this short wav file excerpt. ;D ;D That sounds both creepy and like some old drunk down Sauchiehall Street The first listen I heard... Get off ma shoulder... and then the second time Good old Blackpool however there's something else after Blackpool - it doesn't finish cleanly if you see what I mean and I'll bet - a shiny penny that it's not a genuine Scots accent I'm pretty good on that particular irritation.
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Post by nonrabbit on May 29, 2013 6:19:17 GMT
Hijacking (resurrecting) this thread. In sharp contrast to the exciting and oft beautiful venues that are appearing both on the current tour and in our tour thread, courtesy of Jim, here's something different! i43.images obliterated by tinypic/fkxh7q.jpg[/IMG] i40.images obliterated by tinypic/zik7k0.jpg[/IMG] Tarlair Music Festival 1993There's a place in Scotland called Macduff (seriously) near Banff, North East Scotland. The Tarlair Festival - it only lasted for about three years, was held on a stage beside an empty outdoor (optimistic!) salt water swimming pool set in a natural cove at the edge of the sea surrounded by cliffs and a pebble beach on the sea side. The crowd were mainly in the empty pool, although there were some puddles of salt water here and there, with the stage above the "deep" end. Magnum, Fish (appropriately) and The Sensational Party Boys (The Sensational Alex Harvey Band, minus Alex) were also on the bill. Ian remarked apparently, that it was the most unusual and beautiful place they had ever played. In all fairness to the location - that picture is in present time and they are currently looking to restore the art deco building. The cove where the hard to reach concerts were held, is very remote and beautiful. i43.images obliterated by tinypic/4jatqu.jpg[/IMG]
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Post by zendad on May 29, 2013 7:40:44 GMT
At the end of 'Up The Pool' it is John Evan's voice and he says "Good old Blackpool" in his best Lancastrian accent.
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Post by nonrabbit on May 29, 2013 11:19:39 GMT
At the end of 'Up The Pool' it is John Evan's voice and he says "Good old Blackpool" in his best Lancastrian accent. That's why I like resurrecting these old threads.
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Post by JTull 007 on May 29, 2013 12:22:28 GMT
Great idea Patti! ;D This place must have been very strange and unique for any concert and especially for Tull. I wonder if the power used for the show was done with generators or actual local sources? Outdoor shows are very risky by nature and would have required some protection from the rain. Were there tents or coverings above the stage itself? I would love to see more authentic places just like this... 18/7/93 Tarlair Music Festival Macduff, UK {Ian reportedly threw ice cream cones (cornettos) to the crowd.} Where was John Evan? From the Ministry of Info=
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Post by jackinthegreen on May 29, 2013 21:35:40 GMT
Hijacking (resurrecting) this thread. In sharp contrast to the exciting and oft beautiful venues that are appearing both on the current tour and in our tour thread, courtesy of Jim, here's something different! i43.images obliterated by tinypic/fkxh7q.jpg [/IMG] i40.images obliterated by tinypic/zik7k0.jpg[/IMG] Tarlair Music Festival 1993There's a place in Scotland called Macduff (seriously) near Banff, North East Scotland. The Tarlair Festival - it only lasted for about three years, was held on a stage beside an empty outdoor (optimistic!) salt water swimming pool set in a natural cove at the edge of the sea surrounded by cliffs and a pebble beach on the sea side. The crowd were mainly in the empty pool, although there were some puddles of salt water here and there, with the stage above the "deep" end. Magnum, Fish (appropriately) and The Sensational Party Boys (The Sensational Alex Harvey Band, minus Alex) were also on the bill. Ian remarked apparently, that it was the most unusual and beautiful place they had ever played. In all fairness to the location - that picture is in present time and they are currently looking to restore the art deco building. The cove where the hard to reach concerts were held, is very remote and beautiful. i43.images obliterated by tinypic/4jatqu.jpg[/IMG][/quote] Was at that gig........ It was a great day.. ..weather was superb..... ;D..drunk far too much beer....... Brilliant
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Post by stevep on May 30, 2013 3:28:13 GMT
Remember Tull being on at that MacDuff concert and seeing them at Croydon that year in one of the few British gigs they played. Did anyone else go to the concert at Pentrich in 97? It was a biker type festival and it ended with strippers on stage after Tull. Quite brave of the ladies in front of around 8000 folk. The Tull set was disrupted when the generator ran out of diesel - Mr Anderson did not look a happy chappy that night..
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Post by steelmonkey on May 30, 2013 3:50:08 GMT
Friend of mine went to the biker gig and described it as one of the weirdest Tull gigs ever for him ( he's seen about 80). He and i saw an odd one at the orange county State fair...and i still think the gig in Germany, at a theme park for 10 year olds interested in Westerns ( google Karl May Land or park or whatever) must have been a mistake...I guess there's a stage at this place that caters to germans who dig the Wilde , Wilde West....and damn if Tull didn't play there.
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Post by nonrabbit on May 30, 2013 6:27:19 GMT
Do you think Anderson himself remembers every...single.....gig? and wakes up during the night- shivering?
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Post by maddogfagin on May 30, 2013 8:19:30 GMT
Do you think Anderson himself remembers every...single.....gig? and wakes up during the night- shivering? I would imagine that he has details of every single concert in a series of notebooks somewhere at TullCentral even if he says he hasn't. And I'd love to listen to the surviving tapes, cassettes and mini discs which are made of each concert even if by now many recordings have been deleted and the copy tapes re-used. If you think about it he does seem to remember concerts in some detail.
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Post by stevep on May 30, 2013 10:46:12 GMT
Strange you should mention the German cowboy park Steel Monkey. My home is in the NE of England and years back we used to take short breaks using the ferry from Newcastle to Holland or Germany. One year we got a special deal to Bad Segeberg, a smallish town a few hours drive North of Hamburg.
When we got to the town, there were shops with Cowboy and Indian outfits and various other such goods. I think we were there a few weeks ahead of the annual festival. It was most odd though I now know it is to celebrate the most famous German cowboy story writer (making that up - there may be another more famous one for all I know). I have worked with a few Germans over the years and they seemed to know all about this place.
I never knew that Tull had played there. A tartan outfitted / country gent / space-suited Ian Anderson singing to German red Indians? You would have to wonder what you had been drinking!
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Post by tullist on May 30, 2013 11:08:56 GMT
Thanks for reminding me of the name of that place Steve. I remember Dave Rees account of that show in A New Day, the type of thing, only in the rear view mirror, that is very funny. Do I recall him quoting Peggy as saying something along the lines of their adjusting the set list because they were afraid of getting their ass kicked? I imagine Dave Rees could go backstage anytime he wanted but vaguely recall there maybe being even a tighter bond between the band and Dave's friends than normal, like even maybe Pegg was careful where he wandered. Again in the rear view mirror, something, in its way, very funny about a legendary international band being invited to this weird place, and then having to be careful where they walk to, who they look at. Pretty sure it may have been a festival where Tull was likely the main act and these, ahem, folks had had a whole weekend to work themselves into a state. Vague recollection of Dave Rees maybe mentioning people likely with borderline alcohol poisoning maybe approaching them menacingly before droppind unconscious at their feet. Tull probably had to be careful not to get too flutey, mando or madrigal that night. Maybe try playing the loud parts of Locomotive Breath every third song.
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Post by JTull 007 on May 30, 2013 11:54:49 GMT
Something very cool about this place. I hope they can restore it soon. Awesome videos from 1994 which did not include Tull. Footage from Tarlair Festival '94
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Post by maddogfagin on Jun 8, 2013 14:08:35 GMT
Hijacking (resurrecting) this thread. In sharp contrast to the exciting and oft beautiful venues that are appearing both on the current tour and in our tour thread, courtesy of Jim, here's something different! I knew I'd seen a review of this concert - just couldn't find it amongst all the files.
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Post by hengist on Apr 9, 2014 14:30:13 GMT
Hijacking (resurrecting) this thread. Tarlair Music Festival 1993There's a place in Scotland called Macduff (seriously) near Banff, North East Scotland. The Tarlair Festival - it only lasted for about three years, was held on a stage beside an empty outdoor (optimistic!) salt water swimming pool set in a natural cove at the edge of the sea surrounded by cliffs and a pebble beach on the sea side. The crowd were mainly in the empty pool, although there were some puddles of salt water here and there, with the stage above the "deep" end. Magnum, Fish (appropriately) and The Sensational Party Boys (The Sensational Alex Harvey Band, minus Alex) were also on the bill. Ian remarked apparently, that it was the most unusual and beautiful place they had ever played. In all fairness to the location - that picture is in present time and they are currently looking to restore the art deco building. The cove where the hard to reach concerts were held, is very remote and beautiful. Just a wee resurrection once again, in passing. A bit cheeky using a pic of Tarlair cafe in its current state - at the time of the Festival it was a lot better! Also a touch disingenuous noting that Macduff may be some kind of comedy name for a town. Stating that Tarlair is hard to reach and very remote is stretching it a bit. It's no more than half a mile from town, along a well-maintained road beside the golf course. The main memory of most of us who were there is of the Moray Firth dolphins appearing not many metres off the edge of the pool whilst Jethro Tull were playing. They appeared to be attracted by the flute music (they weren't there for earlier bands on the day). Also, Fish getting up and singing with SAHB was memorable. Chris Glen, Ted McKenna and Fish and his band happily sat on the grass and had a beer with punters during the day. Myself and some other local muso types played at one of the local pubs afterwards - the place was packed out. A splendid day all round.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 9, 2014 14:51:02 GMT
Just a wee resurrection once again, in passing. A bit cheeky using a pic of Tarlair cafe in its current state - at the time of the Festival it was a lot better! Also a touch disingenuous noting that Macduff may be some kind of comedy name for a town. Stating that Tarlair is hard to reach and very remote is stretching it a bit. It's no more than half a mile from town, along a well-maintained road beside the golf course. The main memory of most of us who were there is of the Moray Firth dolphins appearing not many metres off the edge of the pool whilst Jethro Tull were playing. They appeared to be attracted by the flute music (they weren't there for earlier bands on the day). Also, Fish getting up and singing with SAHB was memorable. Chris Glen, Ted McKenna and Fish and his band happily sat on the grass and had a beer with punters during the day. Myself and some other local muso types played at one of the local pubs afterwards - the place was packed out. A splendid day all round. Dolphin comment is great, certainly makes me happy to read this. I've noticed more than a few birds, pets and wild animals-(might be a joke in this) settling in for the beautiful sound of Anderson's flute playing. Welcome to the forum. edited for clarity
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Post by nonrabbit on Apr 9, 2014 17:43:01 GMT
Hijacking (resurrecting) this thread. Tarlair Music Festival 1993There's a place in Scotland called Macduff (seriously) near Banff, North East Scotland. The Tarlair Festival - it only lasted for about three years, was held on a stage beside an empty outdoor (optimistic!) salt water swimming pool set in a natural cove at the edge of the sea surrounded by cliffs and a pebble beach on the sea side. The crowd were mainly in the empty pool, although there were some puddles of salt water here and there, with the stage above the "deep" end. Magnum, Fish (appropriately) and The Sensational Party Boys (The Sensational Alex Harvey Band, minus Alex) were also on the bill. Ian remarked apparently, that it was the most unusual and beautiful place they had ever played. In all fairness to the location - that picture is in present time and they are currently looking to restore the art deco building. The cove where the hard to reach concerts were held, is very remote and beautiful. Just a wee resurrection once again, in passing. A bit cheeky using a pic of Tarlair cafe in its current state - at the time of the Festival it was a lot better! Also a touch disingenuous noting that Macduff may be some kind of comedy name for a town. Stating that Tarlair is hard to reach and very remote is stretching it a bit. It's no more than half a mile from town, along a well-maintained road beside the golf course. The main memory of most of us who were there is of the Moray Firth dolphins appearing not many metres off the edge of the pool whilst Jethro Tull were playing. They appeared to be attracted by the flute music (they weren't there for earlier bands on the day). Also, Fish getting up and singing with SAHB was memorable. Chris Glen, Ted McKenna and Fish and his band happily sat on the grass and had a beer with punters during the day. Myself and some other local muso types played at one of the local pubs afterwards - the place was packed out. A splendid day all round. Hello hengist and Welcome to the Forum !! Thank you for joining and hope you enjoy looking at all the various threads. Full apologies for posting about a concert and place that I have never attended and getting some of it wrong. I highlighted and maybe brought it to further attention as an "unusual" place for a concert - in the sense that it was in an area of the country that didn't necessarily hold many concerts and in a pool - hence putting it in this thread. The Forum has many posters and viewers round the globe therefore in my saying "Macduff - seriously" was tongue in cheek and purely for those "unfortunates" who are not familiar with Scotland. Thank you for sharing memories of the concert especially Fish and SAHB - I have some great memories of meeting and hearing both Fish and some of the boys from SAHB in Glasgow and England. At the very least I maybe got it right in saying that the location was a very beautiful spot. Any more memories of Tull from that day that you wish to share or indeed of any other concerts? All the Best nonrabbit
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