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Post by rebecca on Feb 5, 2009 22:51:52 GMT
Oh, I've missed the football talk. It's been long enough that very little of it makes sense any more.
How does a lady in California keep up? You must have some good satellite TV!
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Post by bluehare on Feb 6, 2009 1:01:39 GMT
Drat! I knew if I got called away I'd miss a funny retort! But to respond: Sad, but true. Nobody looks that sharp. I don't know who the announcers think they're fooling when they talk about any of these teams being back to their free flowing best...and how "lesser" teams know better than to let them hit their stride....yada, yada, yada. They all look tired. Wonder what the deal is.... Ah. Yes. Well, that. You have me there. But I did hedge my answer by saying " if" , and I did imply it wouldn't get me very far....which it didn't! Heh, heh! And I have to admit even I think Rooney, Tevez, and Carrick are hideous. And you could add Scholesy to the list. In the old days when I first saw him, he honestly was the stuff of nightmares for me. I have since grown used to him, and can just admire him for his talent. All the pretty boys are on your team this year! ;D
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Post by bluehare on Feb 6, 2009 1:09:08 GMT
Oh, I've missed the football talk. It's been long enough that very little of it makes sense any more. How does a lady in California keep up? You must have some good satellite TV! We just have DishTV. I have gotten my family scowled into submission. Took me a little while, but now they know better. I don't get priority with the TV most the time, so I told them Saturday and Sunday mornings are mine. Usually when special games are on, like Champions League, everybody's off doing something productive - like work or school. I have the TV all to myself then! Since most of Man Utd's games are blocked, though, I have to watch - or listen to - them on the computer. I get many of the other teams, though, and I do enjoy watching them almost as much.
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Post by maddogfagin on Feb 6, 2009 10:14:48 GMT
All Palace need is a couple of good strikers, a couple of good midfielders to supplement our excellent goalie - Speroni. Warnock's a good manager but has got no money to spend. Oh well, the joys of being a football supporter Shame that living in the west of England I can't get to games easily anymore but at least I know where my loyalties lie
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Post by quizzkid on Feb 6, 2009 11:17:56 GMT
and Ralph Coates and Big Martin... Mind you you could do with a couple of old names...how about Sol Campbell....Oh no, he was one of ours. Ralph Coates! The only man with a better non-hairstyle than Bobby Charlton! Surely you'd like Ossie back at Tottingham! Talking of old names, I hear we're trying to sign Biggus Diccus! Cheers, Jioffe. We've seen some bad hairstyles down at the Lane, add to Ralphy, the Mullet Twins, Hoddle and Waddle, Pat Jennings had a dubious barnet, and then there was Ossie, Ricki and more recently Pedro Mendes.....Harry's is a touch Shredded Wheat.
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Post by maddogfagin on Feb 6, 2009 11:39:51 GMT
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Post by rebecca on Feb 6, 2009 12:58:27 GMT
One of the great things about having a job like musician, athlete, artist, writer, etc. is the freedom to wear your hair (etc.) however wierd you want to!
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Post by rebecca on Feb 6, 2009 13:00:31 GMT
Oh, I've missed the football talk. It's been long enough that very little of it makes sense any more. How does a lady in California keep up? You must have some good satellite TV! We just have DishTV. I have gotten my family scowled into submission. Took me a little while, but now they know better. I don't get priority with the TV most the time, so I told them Saturday and Sunday mornings are mine. Usually when special games are on, like Champions League, everybody's off doing something productive - like work or school. I have the TV all to myself then! Since most of Man Utd's games are blocked, though, I have to watch - or listen to - them on the computer. I get many of the other teams, though, and I do enjoy watching them almost as much. My dad used to listen to baseball on the radio. I don't think I could follow a game that way. How did you gain the exposure to become a fan in the first place?
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Post by bluehare on Feb 6, 2009 14:41:48 GMT
My dad did, too! Almost went pro but then that pesky World War thing came up.... So we grew up rabid baseball and football (gridiron) fans. I HATED soccer! Dull and boring, and pointless. Sometimes point less! What a monumental waste of time. Then one morning around 2000-2001 - somewhere in there - I had a bout of insomnia that wouldn't go away. I started watching TV. I didn't want any gore that time of morning, so I thought a sports channel would be my best bet. The very first game I ever saw was between Aston Villa and Liverpool. I remember a guy with a name like Hadjii for Aston Villa running across the screen, horking his nose on the pitch! Ha! That was my intro to British footie! The next morning I watched Arsenal vs somebody. I thought Dennis Bergkamp would end up being my player. My sister was living with us at the time, and I was trying to get her hooked on it. Long story short - and for many reasons - it came down to Liverpool or Man United....reasons that had nothing to do with football! ;D Then we started watching all the games we could, and ended up liking Man Utd the best. We've never wavered since then. While I do love watching all the teams (ahem! ), for me, there is only one team. But it's because the football was so fast! And clever. And pretty. Some of the runs and passes they were doing was just amazing to me. Whatever I had watched in the past was not what I saw on TV that morning. Now I rarely watch the other sports. They're too slow for me.... Do you follow football - or other sports much, rebecca?
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Post by bluehare on Feb 6, 2009 14:44:39 GMT
Pretty pitch, Maddog. Warnock's a character! Haven't been around long enough to pick up on the rivalry between Crystal Palace and MU. I've seen the rousing games between MU and Leeds, though! All Palace need is a couple of good strikers, a couple of good midfielders to supplement our excellent goalie - Speroni. Warnock's a good manager but has got no money to spend. Oh well, the joys of being a football supporter Shame that living in the west of England I can't get to games easily anymore but at least I know where my loyalties lie
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Post by maddogfagin on Feb 6, 2009 15:22:06 GMT
We just have DishTV. I have gotten my family scowled into submission. Took me a little while, but now they know better. I don't get priority with the TV most the time, so I told them Saturday and Sunday mornings are mine. Usually when special games are on, like Champions League, everybody's off doing something productive - like work or school. I have the TV all to myself then! Since most of Man Utd's games are blocked, though, I have to watch - or listen to - them on the computer. I get many of the other teams, though, and I do enjoy watching them almost as much. My dad used to listen to baseball on the radio. I don't think I could follow a game that way. How did you gain the exposure to become a fan in the first place? We were taken to my first Palace game when I was 11 and up to then I'd always been a Man U fan. After the game I was a fervent Palace supporter and have been ever since. Palace's main "rivals" are Brighton and Charlton although, as far as I can make out, you are either a Man U fan or not. Palace's ground, Selhurst Park, is a "hotch potch" of different architectural ages and styles. There is talk of a modern ground being built locally but money is the problem. When I first went there only one side of the ground was covered, now all four sides are. Selhurst Park when it was opened in 1924. The stand on the far side is the same one as in the picture in my previous post Pic of Selhurst Park, early 60's with open terraces Oh happy memories of meat pies, cups of tea, peanuts and err . . . . primitive toilet facilities
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Post by tullistray on Feb 6, 2009 16:21:41 GMT
One of the great things about having a job like musician, athlete, artist, writer, etc. is the freedom to wear your hair (etc.) however wierd you want to! Unless you play for the New York Yankees, in keeping with the sartorial splendor of their uniform and in acknowledgement of their dominance of the American sports landscape in the 20 th century, and maybe in the 21st, no facial hair or long hair is allowed. A policy I would not support anywhere but the New York Yankees. One thing,( being an American and having scant knowledge of the world's most popular and conceivably best game, futbol), that geeks me is the advertisements on the players uniforms. I have heard Ian A to say as regards using certain of his songs for advertisements and it being OK in the US market, but, you know, too crass for the rest of the cultured world, I feel quite similar about advertisements on jerseys. I think I might harm myself if I ever saw advertisements on Green Bay Packer uniforms.
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Post by tullistray on Feb 6, 2009 16:40:08 GMT
Baseball, to the extent you can stand it, it suffers from much of the same complaints that futbol does, too slow and these days probably not violent enough, having ceded national pastime status to pro football about 40 yrs ago, has such a leisurely pace that it lends itself to verbal interpretation moreso than any other of our major US sports, in 3 hours there is about 10 minutes of action. Having said that I consider it the most sophisticated of any of the sports, (I have often likened it to Hesse's Glass Bead Game) but it would take years to arrive at that type of thinking, not surprised many people find it boring, after all, I am a JTull and GDead fan, two entertainment entities considered by much of the world to be rife with boredom. Your Dad may have grown up in a time when that is how all people stayed in touch with baseball, prior to TV, and if you are in Kentucky, likely your Dad is a Cincinnati Reds fan, and I can imagine in the 70's when they owned the sport fans may not have wanted to miss anything. I suspect in Ky there are also alot of fans of the Braves, Cardinals and like everywhere else, the Yankees. But how cool is it that that string goes back prior to our Civil War, a horrific engagement that sometimes saw 10000 people killed in one day, but on occasion during days when they weren't blowing each others legs off, the Rebs and the Yanks apparently would have baseball games against each other. How weird is that? I love that connection for the simple fact of that connection through the decades, centuries and epochs, tells me people are not that different thru the years.
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Post by quizzkid on Feb 6, 2009 16:45:07 GMT
One of the great things about having a job like musician, athlete, artist, writer, etc. is the freedom to wear your hair (etc.) however wierd you want to! Unless you play for the New York Yankees, in keeping with the sartorial splendor of their uniform and in acknowledgement of their dominance of the American sports landscape in the 20 th century, and maybe in the 21st, no facial hair or long hair is allowed. A policy I would not support anywhere but the New York Yankees. One thing,( being an American and having scant knowledge of the world's most popular and conceivably best game, futbol), that geeks me is the advertisements on the players uniforms. I have heard Ian A to say as regards using certain of his songs for advertisements and it being OK in the US market, but, you know, too crass for the rest of the cultured world, I feel quite similar about advertisements on jerseys. I think I might harm myself if I ever saw advertisements on Green Bay Packer uniforms. I share those thoughts, I cannot stand kit sponsorship. Big money is ruining the game, and the clubs in the lower leagues and at grass roots are being threatened with talk of £100M players....I've a season ticket for a premiership club and the best game i saw last season was Millwall vs Bristol Rovers.....
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Post by quizzkid on Feb 6, 2009 16:47:27 GMT
All Palace need is a couple of good strikers, a couple of good midfielders to supplement our excellent goalie - Speroni. Warnock's a good manager but has got no money to spend. Oh well, the joys of being a football supporter Shame that living in the west of England I can't get to games easily anymore but at least I know where my loyalties lie I like Warnock, he's a good bloke, pity you can't get shot of Jordan and get someone wth some real financial clout there to improve the facilities. Went there a couple of times last season with my nephews who are supporters....the seating is pretty grim as are the pasties.
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Post by bluehare on Feb 6, 2009 17:28:13 GMT
Of the sports I grew up with, I do miss baseball the most. I should alter my remarks to say that I don't consider it boring. I just don't seem to have a life paced slowly enough to devote to it right now. In the spring I do try to catch games when I can. But sadly, my natural freneticism keeps me from getting through a whole one.
Plus my dad's not around, and sometimes baseball tugs me in places where I would rather it left me alone. I have no such tugs with footie. I found it on my own.
My teams were definitely influenced by my dad. He was from Baltimore, then lived most of his adult life in the Bay area of California. He seemed to prefer the AL teams to the NL. I loved the grandiosity of the AL teams, but I also liked the scruffiness of the NL teams. At least in my day, they were easily distinguishable.
The Reds were a favorite team of mine, though I have been a Cali girl my whole life! Rebecca, being from Kentucky as you pointed out, may have liked them, too.
Not coming from the UK, I get the feeling that whole hometown rivalry will never be as strong in me as it is in the locals.
I do love Man Utd. It is my team. But I usually have no problem watching and enjoying the others. Having said that, my blood does boil watching us play 'Pool or Chelsea! I want to smash those guys most the time!
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Post by maddogfagin on Feb 6, 2009 19:41:50 GMT
All Palace need is a couple of good strikers, a couple of good midfielders to supplement our excellent goalie - Speroni. Warnock's a good manager but has got no money to spend. Oh well, the joys of being a football supporter Shame that living in the west of England I can't get to games easily anymore but at least I know where my loyalties lie I like Warnock, he's a good bloke, pity you can't get shot of Jordan and get someone wth some real financial clout there to improve the facilities. Went there a couple of times last season with my nephews who are supporters....the seating is pretty grim as are the pasties. He's trying to sell the club but as yet nobody has come forward so he's stuck with it at the moment and the money has dried up for new players. I reckon Warnock will go when Jordan eventually sells up which would be a shame. When you see some of the newer stadiums around, Reading is a good example, you can see how dear old Selhurst is a bit of a s**t pit these days.
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Post by jioffe on Feb 7, 2009 12:52:34 GMT
I share those thoughts, I cannot stand kit sponsorship. Big money is ruining the game, and the clubs in the lower leagues and at grass roots are being threatened with talk of £100M players....I've a season ticket for a premiership club and the best game i saw last season was Millwall vs Bristol Rovers..... I agree with you 100% about big money ruining the game but, for me, kit sponsorship is a lesser evil compared to those animated advertising hoardings that run the length and breadth of every pitch. Not only insidious by nature, they're also distracting for the spectator and, most probably, for the players as well. Cheers, Jioffe.
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Post by rebecca on Feb 7, 2009 13:39:49 GMT
I'm trying to respond to several sports posts at once, to be efficient, but I'll probably forget things. Yesterday I tried to do this and lost the whole post!
Most of my sports thrills are vicariously felt from others. My dad liked football and baseball and of all his kids, I'm the one who was interested enough to hear him explain the rules to me and watch with him (NOBODY in my family is remotely athletically talented). I went through a big enthusiasm for the Yankees when I was a teenager and we were living in NY, and he would watch games with me, and he'd take me to Army games at West Point with him. His team is the Cowboys and since they play every thanksgiving, he and I always watch the game. I am a total Dallas fan every thanksgiving! I'm also a vicarious Arsenal fan because of Jioffe (who I would encourage to post some links!)
In college I had the very offputting experience of living in the dorm with most of the athletes. It turned me off sports almost completely. This was somewhat reinforced a few years ago when I worked in the athletic dorm for awhile. It takes some work to separate affection for a sport from implying admiration for jackasses! Also, all the baseball teams near here are NL and I never got to see the Yankees play. I didn't care to switch loyalties! Although, come to think of it, I barely saw a TV the years I was in college anyway.
But I watch the Olympics, I follow the world series and other big stuff, sometimes. I knew who was playing in the superbowl this year, which was remarkable for me. If U of L gets in the basketball Sweet 16 I pay attentiont to that. That's about my level.
But I am enormously sentimental about baseball! it's not boring at all. The thing is, you don't just wait for the ball to be hit. Everything that happens with the ball is action. Every time it's thrown, somebody swings and what the result is is the action!
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Post by jioffe on Feb 7, 2009 14:38:38 GMT
I do love Man Utd. It is my team. But I usually have no problem watching and enjoying the others. Having said that, my blood does boil watching us play 'Pool or Chelsea! I want to smash those guys most the time! And there's something that, I'd guess, all of us here, who have declared our footie loyalties, would agree with! Cheers, Jioffe.
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Post by jioffe on Feb 7, 2009 15:15:23 GMT
I'm also a vicarious Arsenal fan because of Jioffe (who I would encourage to post some links!) Good to see you're still keeping the faith (although, I must admit, mine has been severely tested several times this season)! Not sure what links I should be posting but this will do to start, more in hope than expectation : Cheers, Jioffe.
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Post by bluehare on Feb 7, 2009 17:37:14 GMT
I think the only guy I seriously dislike on your team is Ebouye. But then, I think you dislike him, too!
Even if you guys are struggling, you still play some wicked pretty football.....
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Post by jioffe on Feb 7, 2009 22:03:45 GMT
I think the only guy I seriously dislike on your team is Ebouye. But then, I think you dislike him, too! Even if you guys are struggling, you still play some wicked pretty football..... True but I'd take ugly but effective, if it'll win us something! Eboue should have been packed off in the January sales. Cheers, Jioffe.
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Post by rebecca on Feb 8, 2009 0:24:33 GMT
I'm also a vicarious Arsenal fan because of Jioffe (who I would encourage to post some links!) Good to see you're still keeping the faith (although, I must admit, mine has been severely tested several times this season)! Not sure what links I should be posting but this will do to start, more in hope than expectation : Cheers, Jioffe. Well, my faith depends on yours so don't give up! I was thinking you might post links to news stories as they come along, but the video is fun too. There will be better days ahead, you know.
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Post by jioffe on Feb 8, 2009 19:40:56 GMT
Good to see you're still keeping the faith (although, I must admit, mine has been severely tested several times this season)! Not sure what links I should be posting but this will do to start, more in hope than expectation : Cheers, Jioffe. Well, my faith depends on yours so don't give up! I was thinking you might post links to news stories as they come along, but the video is fun too. There will be better days ahead, you know. ...but not yet! 0-0 away at Spurs today , with our bosom buddy Eboue deciding Spurs needed a chance, so got himself sent off and we have to play more than half the match 10 v 11! At least, that means we'll have to do without him for the next 3 games! Sure I'll post news and stuff. I'm sure Quizz and Broadsword will eagerly await my next e-epistle! And don't worry about my faith. Your team is for life, not just for Christmas! Cheers, Jioffe.
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Post by rebecca on Feb 8, 2009 20:24:25 GMT
So who is this Eboue? i don't remember you complaining about him last year. I'm not oriented anymore, you see.
0-0 isn't that bad, but that means they get credit, is that right?
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Post by quizzkid on Feb 9, 2009 14:13:43 GMT
Good to see you're still keeping the faith (although, I must admit, mine has been severely tested several times this season)! Not sure what links I should be posting but this will do to start, more in hope than expectation : Cheers, Jioffe. Well, my faith depends on yours so don't give up! I was thinking you might post links to news stories as they come along, but the video is fun too. There will be better days ahead, you know. WHAT!!!! Jioffe, this is the blatent grooming or tapping up of of Tull board members to be Gooners.... and I'll be making a complaint via the Rafael Benitez route. It should not be allowed without them being made fully aware of the facts.... things like at one point Arsenal, or Woolwich Wanderers to give them their correct name, had NO English [or even British] players in the line-up......It's supposed to be an English league side and who was it' Lord Jioffe, who joked about the world series not being open to the rest of the world on the old board..... Still the edifice that was Arsenal is crumbling....if we manage to stay up we'll have you next year matey, so watch out. Rebecca, leave the dark side...and remember there is only one team called Hotspur, they play in better colours and have better pasties.
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Post by jioffe on Feb 9, 2009 19:07:11 GMT
So who is this Eboue? i don't remember you complaining about him last year. I'm not oriented anymore, you see. 0-0 isn't that bad, but that means they get credit, is that right? 3 points for a win 1 point each for a draw but, in our positions, we and Spurs have to see it as 2 points lost. I could write a paper on Eboue but, in a nutshell, he's a liability and a cheat. When we were doing well, I guess, I tended to look more towards the positive aspects. Cheers, Jioffe.
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Post by jioffe on Feb 9, 2009 20:59:43 GMT
Well, my faith depends on yours so don't give up! I was thinking you might post links to news stories as they come along, but the video is fun too. There will be better days ahead, you know. WHAT!!!! Jioffe, this is the blatent grooming or tapping up of of Tull board members to be Gooners.... and I'll be making a complaint via the Rafael Benitez route. Does that mean you'll start foaming at the mouth and falling over backwards? ;D Ever heard of The Multicultural Society? I'm also surprised you didn't drag up 1919! I really hope you get the chance! And your phoenix (oops, sorry - chicken!) is doing what, exactly? For one very good reason, it's a crap name! Better colours? Only if you're watching in black and white! Better pasties? I should care. I'm vegetarian! Cheers, Jioffe.
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Post by rebecca on Feb 10, 2009 1:15:20 GMT
WHAT!!!! Jioffe, this is the blatent grooming or tapping up of of Tull board members to be Gooners.... and I'll be making a complaint via the Rafael Benitez route. Does that mean you'll start foaming at the mouth and falling over backwards? ;D Ever heard of The Multicultural Society? I'm also surprised you didn't drag up 1919! I really hope you get the chance! And your phoenix (oops, sorry - chicken!) is doing what, exactly? For one very good reason, it's a crap name! Better colours? Only if you're watching in black and white! Better pasties? I should care. I'm vegetarian! Cheers, Jioffe. I'm sorry, Quizz, but this is a long standing committment and I'm nothing if not a loyal girl! Still, there's always room for a second favorite team and you know I'm on your side too. But I must tell you that Jioffe put a lot of effort into his recruitment. I need a little something more than pretty colors as a motivation. Where does a name like Hotspur come from anyway? Don't they have cheese pasties, Jioffe?
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