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In TooTull we trust...especially his ears. Trust is the key... Two threads...?
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Post by capo3 on Jul 1, 2014 1:13:21 GMT
I am new to this forum - both surprised and excited that I found it! It’s is great to see so many others fascinated with Ian Anderson’s genius as I am. I began listening to Jethro Tull while I was in high school during the early seventies, so of course that ages me. I was an able the guitarist back then and spent hours trying to master Mr. Anderson’s acoustic work. Alas, I was never able to do so. So, I just sat back and began to listen to and totally appreciate the magic of Anderson’s music-crafting. There was a plethora of time-less music to listen to at that time. But nothing came close to Mr. Anderson’s ingenious work. NOTHING EVER WILL! Aqualung was a work of art. Thick as a Brick was a work of genius. A Passion Play was a magnum opus. At fifty-eight years of age, this work still fascinates me and confounds my ability to fully understand it.. This is what makes so addicting and such a pleasure to listen to.
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Post by maddogfagin on Jul 1, 2014 9:18:33 GMT
I am new to this forum - both surprised and excited that I found it! It’s is great to see so many others fascinated with Ian Anderson’s genius as I am. I began listening to Jethro Tull while I was in high school during the early seventies, so of course that ages me. I was an able the guitarist back then and spent hours trying to master Mr. Anderson’s acoustic work. Alas, I was never able to do so. So, I just sat back and began to listen to and totally appreciate the magic of Anderson’s music-crafting. There was a plethora of time-less music to listen to at that time. But nothing came close to Mr. Anderson’s ingenious work. NOTHING EVER WILL! Aqualung was a work of art. Thick as a Brick was a work of genius. A Passion Play was a magnum opus. At fifty-eight years of age, this work still fascinates me and confounds my ability to fully understand it.. This is what makes so addicting and such a pleasure to listen to. Capo3 Welcome Capo3 to The Forum. Good to have another member who's been into Tull for many years and I fully agree with what you've posted above. There's lots to see here and I look forward to reading more about your thoughts of the band. MD
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Post by morthoron on Jul 1, 2014 13:35:07 GMT
Stupid slow Amazon!
*mutters a slew of obscenities beneath his breath*
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Post by maddogfagin on Jul 1, 2014 15:45:39 GMT
Stupid slow Amazon! *mutters a slew of obscenities beneath his breath* Only a slew - Amazon reckon Thursday or Friday here in the UK.
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Post by rbgflute on Oct 3, 2014 3:33:14 GMT
APP is Tull at its zenith, the highest peak. Of complexity, jagged transitions, odd meters, deep and dark lyrics, the kind of album that continues to reveal itself. Like the layers of an onion unpeeling. Yes, I dig 'A Passion Play.' And the remix is an absolute revelation...
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Post by Aqualung1989 on Oct 3, 2014 8:26:08 GMT
Damn guys, I saw this post and had to comment. I feel so many things at the same time when I think of APP that it's kinda hard for me to put my thoughts into words. I must say two things. First, I usually don't really care much about the lyrics, I'm more about the instrumentation. Also, the first time I listened to APP, I thought it was incredibly boring. ... and yet now I'm desperately in love with this album. It took me three listens, but I finally understood. At least, I understood well enough. I've never seen anything so obscure and yet so brilliant once you dig deep enough. And every time I listen to the "Here's the everlasting rub" part, it gives me chills. The lyrics in general are amazing, but English is not my first language and I'm generally dumb when it comes to metaphores in general. Fortunately, there's stuff like Ministry of Information, Cup of Wonder and, why not, this thread. I must say I'm surprised and ecstatic at the same time to see so many APP marks here, if talking to my friends about Tull in general is hard, talking about APP is impossible. May this thread go on for a long time, this young pup here can't wait to learn more from those who have been Tullians for a longer time. Finally, I hope you guys don't mind the spamming, but here's what I wrote about the album a couple of months ago. It's more of a superficial text for people who don't really know the band, nothing to do with those proper reviews you have posted. boredwithoutmusic.blogspot.com.es/2014/07/jethro-tull-v-their-most-underrated.htmlPossibly my favourite Tull album right now. At least, it's the one I go back to more often. So the remix is good then? I must get my hands on it. Now.
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Post by nonrabbit on Oct 3, 2014 10:32:14 GMT
Damn guys, I saw this post and had to comment. I feel so many things at the same time when I think of APP that it's kinda hard for me to put my thoughts into words. I must say two things. First, I usually don't really care much about the lyrics, I'm more about the instrumentation. Also, the first time I listened to APP, I thought it was incredibly boring. ... and yet now I'm desperately in love with this album. It took me three listens, but I finally understood. At least, I understood well enough. I've never seen anything so obscure and yet so brilliant once you dig deep enough. And every time I listen to the "Here's the everlasting rub" part, it gives me chills. The lyrics in general are amazing, but English is not my first language and I'm generally dumb when it comes to metaphores in general. Fortunately, there's stuff like Ministry of Information, Cup of Wonder and, why not, this thread. I must say I'm surprised and ecstatic at the same time to see so many APP marks here, if talking to my friends about Tull in general is hard, talking about APP is impossible. May this thread go on for a long time, this young pup here can't wait to learn more from those who have been Tullians for a longer time. Finally, I hope you guys don't mind the spamming, but here's what I wrote about the album a couple of months ago. It's more of a superficial text for people who don't really know the band, nothing to do with those proper reviews you have posted. boredwithoutmusic.blogspot.com.es/2014/07/jethro-tull-v-their-most-underrated.htmlPossibly my favourite Tull album right now. At least, it's the one I go back to more often. So the remix is good then? I must get my hands on it. Now. Great post Aqualung 1989!! Your very welcome to post any personal blogs etc and we look forward to reading them. On the point you made about being a "young pup" and those of us that have been around Tull for a while - it's always a great pleasure to hear from younger fans or those new to Tull. If I may highjack your post to say that it's important to the Forum that there's a mix of all types of fans contributing and feeling free to do so. I said right from the start that I would personally feel very disappointed if anyone felt that they were uncomfortable posting possibly due to the band and it's fans being around for so long. We need the cobwebs blown away sometimes.
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Post by Aqualung1989 on Oct 3, 2014 11:40:05 GMT
Damn guys, I saw this post and had to comment. I feel so many things at the same time when I think of APP that it's kinda hard for me to put my thoughts into words. I must say two things. First, I usually don't really care much about the lyrics, I'm more about the instrumentation. Also, the first time I listened to APP, I thought it was incredibly boring. ... and yet now I'm desperately in love with this album. It took me three listens, but I finally understood. At least, I understood well enough. I've never seen anything so obscure and yet so brilliant once you dig deep enough. And every time I listen to the "Here's the everlasting rub" part, it gives me chills. The lyrics in general are amazing, but English is not my first language and I'm generally dumb when it comes to metaphores in general. Fortunately, there's stuff like Ministry of Information, Cup of Wonder and, why not, this thread. I must say I'm surprised and ecstatic at the same time to see so many APP marks here, if talking to my friends about Tull in general is hard, talking about APP is impossible. May this thread go on for a long time, this young pup here can't wait to learn more from those who have been Tullians for a longer time. Finally, I hope you guys don't mind the spamming, but here's what I wrote about the album a couple of months ago. It's more of a superficial text for people who don't really know the band, nothing to do with those proper reviews you have posted. boredwithoutmusic.blogspot.com.es/2014/07/jethro-tull-v-their-most-underrated.htmlPossibly my favourite Tull album right now. At least, it's the one I go back to more often. So the remix is good then? I must get my hands on it. Now. Great post Aqualung 1989!! Your very welcome to post any personal blogs etc and we look forward to reading them. On the point you made about being a "young pup" and those of us that have been around Tull for a while - it's always a great pleasure to hear from younger fans or those new to Tull. If I may highjack your post to say that it's important to the Forum that there's a mix of all types of fans contributing and feeling free to do so. I said right from the start that I would personally feel very disappointed if anyone felt that they were uncomfortable posting possibly due to the band and it's fans being around for so long. We need the cobwebs blown away sometimes. Thanks a lot! You may want to have a look at my blog, but rather because I have posted stuff about pretty obscure bands you may find interesting... you probably won't discover anything new about JT!. Anyway, I'm happy you like the post, I'm actually having a blast writing this little blog. I personally don't feel uncomfortable at all, rather the opposite, I find it fascinating when I read stuff posted by people who have been around from the beginning, or almost. So no need to worry
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Post by Equus on Oct 4, 2014 17:16:36 GMT
Damn guys, I saw this post and had to comment. I feel so many things at the same time when I think of APP that it's kinda hard for me to put my thoughts into words. I must say two things. First, I usually don't really care much about the lyrics, I'm more about the instrumentation. Also, the first time I listened to APP, I thought it was incredibly boring. ... and yet now I'm desperately in love with this album. It took me three listens, but I finally understood. At least, I understood well enough. I've never seen anything so obscure and yet so brilliant once you dig deep enough. And every time I listen to the "Here's the everlasting rub" part, it gives me chills. The lyrics in general are amazing, but English is not my first language and I'm generally dumb when it comes to metaphores in general. Fortunately, there's stuff like Ministry of Information, Cup of Wonder and, why not, this thread. I must say I'm surprised and ecstatic at the same time to see so many APP marks here, if talking to my friends about Tull in general is hard, talking about APP is impossible. May this thread go on for a long time, this young pup here can't wait to learn more from those who have been Tullians for a longer time. Finally, I hope you guys don't mind the spamming, but here's what I wrote about the album a couple of months ago. It's more of a superficial text for people who don't really know the band, nothing to do with those proper reviews you have posted. boredwithoutmusic.blogspot.com.es/2014/07/jethro-tull-v-their-most-underrated.htmlPossibly my favourite Tull album right now. At least, it's the one I go back to more often. So the remix is good then? I must get my hands on it. Now. I can only say, buy it!! It's so much more than an extended version of the original... It sounds better than ever, and there are lots of extra material... If you like A Passion Play... Buy it!! Jethro Tull, A Passion Play, an extended performance... You will not regret it...
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Post by steelmonkey on Oct 4, 2014 17:29:04 GMT
Chances i will ever get tried of extolling the glories of APP over and over and over again: 1/1,000,000,000,000,000.
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Post by tonibanks on Dec 4, 2014 15:38:31 GMT
A Passion Play, to me, is like Pink Floyd's Final Cut in that lots of people hate it, but I like it more than the much more praised album that came before it.
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Post by nonrabbit on Dec 6, 2014 16:55:25 GMT
i57.images obliterated by tinypic/29kud86.jpg[/IMG] Sedgwick's Fairground Pendlebury 1901
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Post by thecanterrburyrift on Apr 21, 2015 22:17:41 GMT
This is my first post on this sight- this album means a lot to me because it was the first Tull concert I'd ever seen. I was 13 and my brother was 11 at the time. My Mom waited outside Louisville Gardens for 3 hours waiting for us. When we got in the car ( the band was still playing but my brother made me leave!) my Mom asked me why we smelled funny? I told her that they blew off smoke bombs (which they did) - The older hippy kids got a kick out of us- they were doing their thing, and we didn't really think too much of it-The concert was just so 'weird' that it was all you could do just to take it all in. I was focused on the stage every second. One toke over the line sweet Jesus- Brewer and Shipley were the opening act.
I think that APP was the most innovative album they ever made in terms of sheer audacity of musicianship and blending of almost every style of music into a masterpiece of monumental proportions. Ian's acoustic work on that album is some of the best acoustic playing ever recorded. His sax playing was innovative and unlike anything ever done on sax- and to think that Ian didn't really like sax that much due to the constant tending to it needed. I had never heard the album when I saw the concert, so it was really hard to understand the lyrics- it was probably 3 or 4 months before they released the album- the first listen to any Tull album is like a blur- so much to take in- but, nevertheless, it was a night I will never forget.
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Post by jethrotull on Apr 22, 2015 0:28:29 GMT
Funny, my mom and aunt actually came in for the concert! I had raved so much about the previous year's TAAB concert that my mom decided she had to check out Tull. From a different seating area of course! My aunt worked in Jazz clubs in Chicago through the 60s and was personal friends with all of the jazz legends. She never really articulated her thoughts about the performance of Robin Trower who opened the show or a Tull's Passion Play, but my mom told me Barlow's amazing drum solo was the least exciting part of the show.
I too was just listening to the DVD of APP the other day on a rather nice audio system and marveling at the power and musicianship!
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Post by thecanterrburyrift on Apr 22, 2015 2:02:54 GMT
I don't think anybody in those days of the early 70's realized what opportunities they had to witness such great music. There was a window of about 5-6 years when 3/4's of all of the best of rock was dropped! And right at that precise moment in rock and roll history- was A Passion Play. I love almost every Tull and Ian album, but, A Passion Play, and Thick as a Brick, to me was Tull, at their highest powers of musicianship and creativity. There were no distractions yet as to what was proper and what wasn't- they just wrote what they wanted, learned the crap out of it- and played it like mad men on stage.
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Post by nonrabbit on Apr 22, 2015 8:05:51 GMT
This is my first post on this sight- this album means a lot to me because it was the first Tull concert I'd ever seen. I was 13 and my brother was 11 at the time. My Mom waited outside Louisville Gardens for 3 hours waiting for us. When we got in the car ( the band was still playing but my brother made me leave!) my Mom asked me why we smelled funny? I told her that they blew off smoke bombs (which they did) - The older hippy kids got a kick out of us- they were doing their thing, and we didn't really think too much of it-The concert was just so 'weird' that it was all you could do just to take it all in. I was focused on the stage every second. One toke over the line sweet Jesus- Brewer and Shipley were the opening act.
I think that APP was the most innovative album they ever made in terms of sheer audacity of musicianship and blending of almost every style of music into a masterpiece of monumental proportions. Ian's acoustic work on that album is some of the best acoustic playing ever recorded. His sax playing was innovative and unlike anything ever done on sax- and to think that Ian didn't really like sax that much due to the constant tending to it needed. I had never heard the album when I saw the concert, so it was really hard to understand the lyrics- it was probably 3 or 4 months before they released the album- the first listen to any Tull album is like a blur- so much to take in- but, nevertheless, it was a night I will never forget. HELLO canterburyrift and WELCOME to the ForumLove all your points - very well put. "the first listen to any Tull album is like a blur - so much to take in.." So true. Enjoy the Forum and post away! Cheers nonrabbit
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Post by maddogfagin on Apr 22, 2015 8:20:53 GMT
This is my first post on this sight- this album means a lot to me because it was the first Tull concert I'd ever seen. I was 13 and my brother was 11 at the time. My Mom waited outside Louisville Gardens for 3 hours waiting for us. When we got in the car ( the band was still playing but my brother made me leave!) my Mom asked me why we smelled funny? I told her that they blew off smoke bombs (which they did) - The older hippy kids got a kick out of us- they were doing their thing, and we didn't really think too much of it-The concert was just so 'weird' that it was all you could do just to take it all in. I was focused on the stage every second. One toke over the line sweet Jesus- Brewer and Shipley were the opening act.
I think that APP was the most innovative album they ever made in terms of sheer audacity of musicianship and blending of almost every style of music into a masterpiece of monumental proportions. Ian's acoustic work on that album is some of the best acoustic playing ever recorded. His sax playing was innovative and unlike anything ever done on sax- and to think that Ian didn't really like sax that much due to the constant tending to it needed. I had never heard the album when I saw the concert, so it was really hard to understand the lyrics- it was probably 3 or 4 months before they released the album- the first listen to any Tull album is like a blur- so much to take in- but, nevertheless, it was a night I will never forget. Sure sums up APP for me as well thecanterrburyrift - I never got to see APP in concert as 1973 was a bit of a hectic time for me but other fan's reminiscences of the show are welcome with open arms. In many respects '73 is a watershed as far as my musical tastes are concerned with a whole load of great albums, most of which have stood the test of time. Welcome to the Forum and I look forward to reading more about your thoughts on all things Tull related.
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Post by maddogfagin on Jul 1, 2015 10:27:41 GMT
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Post by JTull 007 on Jan 19, 2016 20:57:37 GMT
Based on several really great parts of Chateau deTULL... I would still have to go with APP.
1. The Big Top 2. Scenario 3. Audition 9. Critique Oblique (Part I & II) are PRICELESS! However Ian made his creation of APP more of a concept piece than the Chateau d’Herouville Sessions.
I could never question what Ian decides musically except in his refusal to play "El Niño" LIVE or especially his caving in to American promoters and not play H.E. in it's complete form!
Having said that... Thanks for the Re-issues and future DVDs that will more than make up for it.
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Post by nonrabbit on Feb 28, 2016 11:29:21 GMT
In contrast to the psychadelia recently - well the brightly coloured sort, here is a rather lovely picture by someone called oldmandave on Deviant Art. i65.images obliterated by tinypic/zojngz.jpg[/IMG] "This is a piece I put together in 1994 when I was younger and sillier. It is an illustrated version of the Jethro Tull piece off the Passion Play album. The original was taken backstage and possibly given to Ian Anderson , I was given an opportunity to go and meet him but declined. oldmandave.deviantart.com/art/The-story-of-the-Hare-who-lost-his-spectacles-285696935
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Post by maddogfagin on Feb 28, 2016 16:16:00 GMT
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Post by rockodyssey on Jun 15, 2016 17:15:16 GMT
A PASSION PLAY (1973)
It's great, apart from a monumentally poor artistic decision halfway through. If you've heard it I hope you will realize that I am referring to 'The Story Of The Hare That Lost His Spectacles'. Let's get that out of the way first. Bassist Jeffrey Hammond narrates in a kind of mannered uber-Alan Bennett voice. The tale is vaguely Winnie the Pooh (Owl and Kangaroo feature), vaguely Alice in Wonderland and vaguely Beatrix Potter. Hammond pronounces it "Speck-tack-kulls" and it is possibly the worst thing I've yet heard when creating these posts. Which is a shame, because the rest of it could challenge The Lamb Lies Down On Broadway for scope and ambition. If Tull reckoned that Aqualung was just a collection of songs, and Thick As A Brick was a piss-taking response to the reception that Aqualung got, then A Passion Play sees them wholeheartedly embracing their status as the conceptualists-du-jour. Just like Lamb, the story is a journey through a fantastical world, this time the afterlife of Ronnie Pilgrim. He takes in heaven and hell and finds neither to his taste. For me the highlight of the album is the confrontation with Lucifer "the overseer of the year". From the grunts like someone has punched Anderson in the solar plexus to the coruscating organ chords, 'Overseer Overture' could be the best thing they ever did - and I happen to believe that they achieved some fairly remarkable stuff over the years. The cover on this one always put me off. I still can't quite figure it out. It's a monochrome picture of a prostrate ballerina in a theatre right? It looked like a classical album, which can daunt a young man.
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Post by JTull 007 on Jun 15, 2016 17:52:44 GMT
A PASSION PLAY (1973) It's great, apart from a monumentally poor artistic decision halfway through. If you've heard it I hope you will realize that I am referring to 'The Story Of The Hare That Lost His Spectacles'. Let's get that out of the way first. Bassist Jeffrey Hammond narrates in a kind of mannered uber-Alan Bennett voice. !The tale is vaguely Winnie the Pooh (Owl and Kangaroo feature), vaguely Alice in Wonderland and vaguely Beatrix Potter. Hammond pronounces it "Speck-tack-kulls" and it is possibly the worst thing I've yet heard when creating these posts. Which is a shame, because the rest of it could challenge The Lamb Lies Down On Broadway for scope and ambition. If Tull reckoned that Aqualung was just a collection of songs, and Thick As A Brick was a piss-taking response to the reception that Aqualung got, then A Passion Play sees them wholeheartedly embracing their status as the conceptualists-du-jour. Just like Lamb, the story is a journey through a fantastical world, this time the afterlife of Ronnie Pilgrim. He takes in heaven and hell and finds neither to his taste. For me the highlight of the album is the confrontation with Lucifer "the overseer of the year". From the grunts like someone has punched Anderson in the solar plexus to the coruscating organ chords, 'Overseer Overture' could be the best thing they ever did - and I happen to believe that they achieved some fairly remarkable stuff over the years. The cover on this one always put me off. I still can't quite figure it out. It's a monochrome picture of a prostrate ballerina in a theatre right? It looked like a classical album, which can daunt a young man. Exactly Right!!! As a 16 year old that wandered into a record store I was in LOVE with HER!
Although the points made earlier are somewhat true, it all depends on the frame of mind. During the early 70's some got it and some did not. It took me months to absorb the symbolism.
Seeing the LIVE performance before ever hearing the album was also a factor. I was STUNNED! It made a lifelong change in me which has yet to subside...
All in all, a very interesting and honest review!
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Post by rockodyssey on Jun 15, 2016 18:47:52 GMT
I'll hold my hands up to being quite superficial in my approach. I assume the audience (there isn't really much of an audience by the way) has a passing knowledge of the band at most, so I hope I'll be forgiven for a lack of depth.
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Post by JTull 007 on Jun 15, 2016 21:02:29 GMT
All in all, a very interesting and honest review! I'll hold my hands up to being quite superficial in my approach. I assume the audience (there isn't really much of an audience by the way) has a passing knowledge of the band at most, so I hope I'll be forgiven for a lack of depth. As reviews are always presented in different ways there is no problem. It takes each person to reach a personal conclusion from a basic knowledge of the music and lyrics. Since APP was heavily criticized when it was released, eventually it became the GOLD Standard for TULL Fans. Although many would be bewildered due to the storyline, after a while it all makes sense.
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Post by steelmonkey on Jun 16, 2016 1:24:03 GMT
Overseer Overture as climax of all Tull ? That or the deepest part of the 70's flute solo.
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Post by JTull 007 on Jul 6, 2016 21:54:25 GMT
Happy Anniversary to "A Passion Play" Released on July 6th, 1973 My first APP 43 years ago!
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