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Post by nonrabbit on Jul 20, 2012 9:12:18 GMT
Today is the (43rd) anniversary of the moon landing. Watery eyes of the last sighing seconds, blue reflections mute and dim beckon tearful child of wonder to repentance of the sin. And the blind and lusty lovers of the great eternal lie go on believing nothing since something has to die. And the ape's curiosity -- money power wins, and the yellow soft mountains move under him. I'm with you L.E.M. though it's a shame that it had to be you. The mother ship is just a blip from your trip made for two. I'm with you boys, so please employ just a little extra care. It's on my mind I'm left behind when I should have been there. Walking with you. And the limp face hungry viewers fight to fasten with their eyes like the man hung from the trapeze -- whose fall will satisfy. And congratulate each other on their rare and wondrous deed That their begrudged money bought to sow the monkey's seed. And the yellow soft mountains they grow very still witness as intrusion the humanoid thrill. That song, that idea for that song, those lyrics (footprinted in my head) and that album is why I love Tull.
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Post by bassackwards on Jul 20, 2012 15:42:41 GMT
AAAhhhh, Benefit! This one holds a special place in my heart! My first Tull experience. Bought it when it came out as Tull was the talk of all the cool kids in high school. (imagine that). It was the centerpiece of the soundtrack of the trip of a lifetime that 3 friends and I made during the summer break from Atlanta to Boca Raton florida. The other players on that soundtrack were Led Zep, the Allman Bros., Cat Stevens, Black Sabboth. We were able to stay gone as long as our money held out (imagine that!). I think none of us had more than $100 but we managed to stay gone around 2 months during which time we heard Tull was to be in Ft Lauderdale and of course we went. We ended up getting escorted out of the state by Florida's finest (another story), saving a man's life from a heart attack while on the road and encountering and staying with a strange man deep in the woods of Jekyll Island Georgia. He had an ax by the front door and their was presumably an old mother upstairs who we never saw but he talked to her, never heard her answer back(psycho?). Yet another story. I'm trying to get those same guyz together to go the the Brick show in Atlanta. I do have the 4 tickets, 14th row center.
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Post by nonrabbit on Jul 20, 2012 16:14:16 GMT
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Post by nonrabbit on Jul 20, 2012 16:23:16 GMT
AAAhhhh, Benefit! This one holds a special place in my heart! My first Tull experience. Bought it when it came out as Tull was the talk of all the cool kids in high school. (imagine that). It was the centerpiece of the soundtrack of the trip of a lifetime that 3 friends and I made during the summer break from Atlanta to Boca Raton florida. The other players on that soundtrack were Led Zep, the Allman Bros., Cat Stevens, Black Sabboth. We were able to stay gone as long as our money held out (imagine that!). I think none of us had more than $100 but we managed to stay gone around 2 months during which time we heard Tull was to be in Ft Lauderdale and of course we went. We ended up getting escorted out of the state by Florida's finest (another story), saving a man's life from a heart attack while on the road and encountering and staying with a strange man deep in the woods of Jekyll Island Georgia. He had an ax by the front door and their was presumably an old mother upstairs who we never saw but he talked to her, never heard her answer back(psycho?). Yet another story. I'm trying to get those same guyz together to go the the Brick show in Atlanta. I do have the 4 tickets, 14th row center. Great story and the reason I choose to spend my time reading and talking to Tull fans. Thanks for sharing. While you were on an adventure with Benefit as the soundtrack for me it was playing all the way as I left home to find adventure down in London ... with no money and a packet of fags in my pocket... on the underground crying a song
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Post by steelmonkey on Jul 20, 2012 17:14:37 GMT
I didn't get benefit till a couple months after I started my lifelong love affair with Tull on 1-1-73 but I do remember the moon landing...I caught glimpses on TV during a summer job working in the kitchen of a Denver hospital for $1.65 an hour and lots of informative hanging around with friendly older workers...i mean, i was 15 but this job allowed me 'in' with all kinds of 17 and 18 year olds...bliss... so much to watch and learn about rock and roll, drugs and girls. talk about great times and great memories....
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Post by nonrabbit on Jul 20, 2012 17:25:08 GMT
Have to say my coolness rating... like a few other Tull fans my age and who live in San Fran .. took a baiting when I would try and recite the lyrics when I first heard them especially to For Michael Collins... eg "I'm with you lamb" "and the yellows of the mountains agrooves on the hill" "Blue reflections newt and dim" "to repent and softly sin" and the first line? "Poultry eyes" i49.images obliterated by tinypic/mw8lkz.jpg[/IMG] the drugs most definately did work
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Post by maddogfagin on Jul 20, 2012 18:08:49 GMT
Excellent. Knocks all other interpretatons of this song out the window.
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Post by steelmonkey on Jul 20, 2012 21:12:27 GMT
Can't wait to see the video when I get home.Apogee sequel to follow?
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Post by nonrabbit on Jul 20, 2012 23:00:19 GMT
Good idea I'll mention it to him.
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Post by jackinthegreen on Jul 22, 2012 22:22:58 GMT
One of my favourite albums. The superb "With you there to Help Me" is amazing.... Ian's writing at this time was very creative, all sorts of stuff going on, and all cleverly written. It is poetry, in the same way that Jim Morrison's work was too. Ian's was without chemical help though....
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Post by nonrabbit on Jul 23, 2012 9:44:34 GMT
One of my favourite albums. The superb "With you there to Help Me" is amazing.... Ian's writing at this time was very creative, all sorts of stuff going on, and all cleverly written. It is poetry, in the same way that Jim Morrison's work was too. Ian's was without chemical help though.... Agree 1000000%
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Post by maddogfagin on Jul 23, 2012 11:23:04 GMT
One of my favourite albums. The superb "With you there to Help Me" is amazing.... Ian's writing at this time was very creative, all sorts of stuff going on, and all cleverly written. It is poetry, in the same way that Jim Morrison's work was too. Ian's was without chemical help though.... Agree 1000000% This is elsewhere on the Forum but it's worth a repeat . . . for our Benefit Published on 22 Jul 2012 by ZumazinZumeizen
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Post by jackinthegreen on Jul 23, 2012 20:30:29 GMT
Nice to see that again maddog......
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Post by eliaspiesdeplomo on May 12, 2013 18:28:17 GMT
Hello guys, I've recently acquired the jepanese remaaster of benefit and I woul really like to know where the Singing all day and Just trying to be bonus track come from. I found out teacher and witch promise are from a single but nothing I know of the other two. Thanks for your help. Greetings from Argentina
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Post by Tull50 on May 12, 2013 18:36:49 GMT
Hello guys, I've recently acquired the jepanese remaaster of benefit and I woul really like to know where the Singing all day and Just trying to be bonus track come from. I found out teacher and witch promise are from a single but nothing I know of the other two. Thanks for your help. Greetings from Argentina Greetings and welcome to JTForum Elias, nice to have here a member from South América If I'm not mistaken this is the set-list of Japanese remaster: 01 - With You There To Help Me 6:19 02 - Nothing To Say 5:14 03 - Alive And Well And Living In 2:49 04 - Son 2:51 05 - For Michael Collins, Jeffrey And Me 3:52 06 - To Cry You A Song 6:16 07 - A Time For Everything? 2:44 08 - Inside 3:50 09 - Play In Time 3:50 10 - Sossity, You're A Woman 4:42 Bonus: 11 - Singing All Day 3:07 12 - Witch's Promise 3:53 13 - Just Trying To Be 1:37 14 - Teacher 3:49 Total Time: 54:55 Ian Anderson - Vocals, Flute, Acoustic Guitar, Mandolin Martin Barre - Electric And Acoustic Guitars Glen Cornick - Bass Guitar Clive Bunker - Drums And Percussion John Evan - Piano And Organ although I think your doubts were already solved Saludos y bienvenido al JTForum Elias Remy from Barcelona
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Post by maddogfagin on May 13, 2013 8:16:54 GMT
Hello guys, I've recently acquired the jepanese remaaster of benefit and I woul really like to know where the Singing all day and Just trying to be bonus track come from. I found out teacher and witch promise are from a single but nothing I know of the other two. Thanks for your help. Greetings from Argentina Hi eliaspiesdeplomo and welcome to The Jethro Tull Forum. Both songs were from the Living In The Past album and were included on the remaster of Benefit as, in IA's own words, "they have been included here [Benefit remaster] as close cousins of the rest of the tracks". I've posted IA's sleeve notes to the UK remaster in case they are different to your copy. Glad to have you along and look forward to talking to you about the band MD
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Post by Deleted on Sept 4, 2013 13:10:59 GMT
jethrotull.com/benefit-2cddvd-collectors-edition/forums.stevehoffman.tv/threads/jethro-tull-benefit-new-steve-wilson-remixes-coming.315710/page-3#post-9342798Following the release last year of the 40th anniversary edition of Thick as a Brick, on 28th October Chrysalis Records will release a Collector’s Edition of Jethro Tull’s Benefit album. Benefit was Jethro Tull’s third album, first released in April 1970. Transcending the blues influences of their 1969 album Stand Up, it was a much more hard-rocking album which saw the band utilise more advanced studio techniques. It reached number 3 in the UK. The Collector’s Edition of Benefit plus bonus tracks has been mixed by Steven Wilson and approved by Ian Anderson. CD2 is a mono and stereo disc of rare and previously unreleased versions of tracks and singles associated with the period Benefit was released in (more information available on request). The audio only DVD includes a surround sound mix of Benefit,96/24 tracks of Stereo in UK and US running orders. In addition, the Collector’s Edition will include a booklet featuring an 8,000 word essay written by Martin Webb, as well as interviews with band members and a selection of photos, some of which are rare and previously unseen. CD 1 1-With You There To Help Me (6.20) 2-Nothing To Say (5.13) 3-Alive And Well And Living In (2.48) 4-Son (2.53) 5-For Michael Collins, Jeffrey and Me (3.49) 6-To Cry You A Song (6.16) 7-A Time For Everything ? (2.45) 8-Inside (3.48) 9-Play In Time (3.49) 10-Sossity; You’re A Woman (4.37) Bonus recordings 11-Singing All Day (3.07) 12-Sweet Dream (4.03) 13-17 (6.20) 14-Teacher (4.58) (UK single version) (stereo) 15- Teacher (4.03) (US album version) (stereo) Tracks 1-10 Produced by Ian Anderson Executive Producer Terry Ellis CD 2: Associated recordings 1-Singing All Day (mono)* 2-Sweet Dream (mono) 3- 17 (mono) 4- Sweet Dream (stereo)* 5- 17 (stereo)* 6-The Witch’s Promise (mono) 7-Teacher (UK single version) (mono) 8-Teacher (US album version) (mono) 9-The Witch’s Promise (stereo) 10-Teacher (UK single version (stereo) 11-Teacher (US album version) (stereo) 12-Inside (mono) 13-Alive And Well And Living In 14-A Time For Everything (mono) 15-Reprise AM Radio Spot 1 (mono) 16-Reprise FM Radio Spot 2 (stereo) *previously unreleased DVD - DTS & Dolby Digital 5.1 & stereo versions of the following: 1-With You There To Help Me (6.20) 2-Nothing To Say (5.13) 3-Alive And Well And Living In (2.48) 4-Son (2.53) 5-For Michael Collins, Jeffrey and Me (3.49) 6-To Cry You A Song (6.16) 7-A Time For Everything ? (2.45) 8-Inside (3.48) 9-Play In Time (3.49) 10-Sossity; You’re A Woman (4.37) Bonus recordings 11-Singing All Day 12-Sweet Dream 13-17 14-Teacher (UK single version) (stereo) 15- Teacher (US album version) (stereo) New 5.1 surround sound and stereo mixes by Steven Wilson Flat transfer of Original UK LP master at 96/24: UK running order 1-With You There To Help Me (6.20) 2-Nothing To Say (5.13) 3-Alive And Well And Living In (2.48) 4-Son (2.53) 5-For Michael Collins, Jeffrey and Me (3.49) 6-To Cry You A Song (6.16) 7-A Time For Everything ? (2.45) 8-Inside (3.48) 9-Play In Time (3.49) 10-Sossity; You’re A Woman (4.37) US running order 1-With You There To Help Me (6.20) 2-Nothing To Say (5.13) 3-Inside (3.49) 4-Son (2.53) 5-For Michael Collins, Jeffrey and Me (3.50) 6-To Cry You A Song (6.15) 7-A Time For Everything (2.44) 8-Teacher (4.04) 9-Play In Time (3.53) 10-Sossity; You’re A Woman (4.39) Additional flat transfer recordings at 96/24: 11-Sweet Dream (stereo) 4:08 12-17 (stereo) 5:32 13-The Witch’s Promise (stereo) 4:01 VINYL Editions UK Edition: A vinyl edition featuring the new & previously unreleased Steven Wilson mix of the UK running order of ‘Benefit’ on 180g heavyweight vinyl, will be released on the same day. US Edition: In the US the album will also be released on vinyl later this year. Details to be announced soon.
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Post by steelmonkey on Sept 4, 2013 15:16:56 GMT
Six 'Teacher's...maybe they should change the name of the CD to 'School'.
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Post by maddogfagin on Sept 4, 2013 15:39:42 GMT
Six 'Teacher's...maybe they should change the name of the CD to 'School'. Blackpool Grammar School, though I'm sure they had more than six.
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Post by maddogfagin on Sept 4, 2013 15:49:06 GMT
The full length "17" - wonderful. The end of 2013 and the start of 2014 is going to be expensive - I'll start saving now
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Post by Deleted on Sept 4, 2013 17:58:08 GMT
stevenwilsonhq.com/sw/sw-remixes-jethro-tulls-benefit/Steven’s new stereo and surround mixes of Jethro Tull’s classic third album Benefit will be released on 28th October in a 3 disc CD/DVD and single vinyl edition. Also included are new mixes of all single A and B sides from the period, with the exception of The Witch’s Promise for which the multitrack tapes are missing (the original mix is included in both mono and stereo however). No mastering has been done to the remixes, and a flat transfer of the original stereo mix is also included.
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Post by journeyman on Sept 9, 2013 5:39:31 GMT
There really is no other album in the (vaguely referenced) Rock genre that I am familiar with like Benefit. Tull is known for coming up with new and original sounds fairly consistently, but this album really stands out in that respect. To many people who are not familiar with Tull as much as most of us are (Aqualung, Thick as a Brick, Bungle in the Jungle familiarities) consider this to be the masterpiece before Aqualung. Outside of Tull fandom it has a considerable cult following by virtue of the uniqueness of the album itself. The whole approach of the album was very different from what came before and what came after. Tull's most "psychedelic" album which was released during the demise of the hippie mentality, and just before Tull's international stardom and rapid musical growth of accuracy and sure-shottedness (which is not a word). My two cents
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Post by maddogfagin on Sept 9, 2013 8:00:26 GMT
There really is no other album in the (vaguely referenced) Rock genre that I am familiar with like Benefit. Tull is known for coming up with new and original sounds fairly consistently, but this album really stands out in that respect. To many people who are not familiar with Tull as much as most of us are (Aqualung, Thick as a Brick, Bungle in the Jungle familiarities) consider this to be the masterpiece before Aqualung. Outside of Tull fandom it has a considerable cult following by virtue of the uniqueness of the album itself. The whole approach of the album was very different from what came before and what came after. Tull's most "psychedelic" album which was released during the demise of the hippie mentality, and just before Tull's international stardom and rapid musical growth of accuracy and sure-shottedness (which is not a word). My two cents I watched the Isle of Wight show again last night as it was on Sky Arts and although I must have seen it many times over the years, it still amazes me that for such a young band (at the time !) they were at the top of their game and ahead musically speaking to their peers. In hindsight Benefit must have been seen by other musicians of the era as a shot in the arm and one that groups must have thought "well where the hell do we go from here ?" rather similar to the release of "Sgt Pepper" a few years earlier. Yes it is a masterpiece and without it later Tull recordings would not have been the same. I do wonder why the US edition had a different track listing but then our American cousins did have a bit of catching up to do which really only resolved itself following the release of the LITP compilation release.
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Post by tullpress on Sept 9, 2013 11:58:54 GMT
I'm surprised to hear the master tapes for Witch's Promise couldn't be found ... the track was remixed on the 25th anniversary box set from 1993, suggesting they were available then.
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Post by maddogfagin on Sept 9, 2013 13:17:03 GMT
I'm surprised to hear the master tapes for Witch's Promise couldn't be found ... the track was remixed on the 25th anniversary box set from 1993, suggesting they were available then. A Now you mention it, it does seem a bit strange. Maybe we'll get the answer in the booklet notes ?
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Post by journeyman on Sept 9, 2013 13:22:07 GMT
There really is no other album in the (vaguely referenced) Rock genre that I am familiar with like Benefit. Tull is known for coming up with new and original sounds fairly consistently, but this album really stands out in that respect. To many people who are not familiar with Tull as much as most of us are (Aqualung, Thick as a Brick, Bungle in the Jungle familiarities) consider this to be the masterpiece before Aqualung. Outside of Tull fandom it has a considerable cult following by virtue of the uniqueness of the album itself. The whole approach of the album was very different from what came before and what came after. Tull's most "psychedelic" album which was released during the demise of the hippie mentality, and just before Tull's international stardom and rapid musical growth of accuracy and sure-shottedness (which is not a word). My two cents I watched the Isle of Wight show again last night as it was on Sky Arts and although I must have seen it many times over the years, it still amazes me that for such a young band (at the time !) they were at the top of their game and ahead musically speaking to their peers. In hindsight Benefit must have been seen by other musicians of the era as a shot in the arm and one that groups must have thought "well where the hell do we go from here ?" rather similar to the release of "Sgt Pepper" a few years earlier. Yes it is a masterpiece and without it later Tull recordings would not have been the same. I do wonder why the US edition had a different track listing but then our American cousins did have a bit of catching up to do which really only resolved itself following the release of the LITP compilation release. Good points. Tull was already picking up so much speed and word-of-mouth at the time, that album must have been a sign to their contemporaries to up the game a bit. Tull recognized that the scene was drifting from your average simple Blues oriented Rock to something that called for more stimulation. I imagine the intriguing and unique sounds of Benefit did a lot to build anticipation and the immediate success of the big one.
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Post by maddogfagin on Sept 9, 2013 13:38:16 GMT
I watched the Isle of Wight show again last night as it was on Sky Arts and although I must have seen it many times over the years, it still amazes me that for such a young band (at the time !) they were at the top of their game and ahead musically speaking to their peers. In hindsight Benefit must have been seen by other musicians of the era as a shot in the arm and one that groups must have thought "well where the hell do we go from here ?" rather similar to the release of "Sgt Pepper" a few years earlier. Yes it is a masterpiece and without it later Tull recordings would not have been the same. I do wonder why the US edition had a different track listing but then our American cousins did have a bit of catching up to do which really only resolved itself following the release of the LITP compilation release. Good points. Tull was already picking up so much speed and word-of-mouth at the time, that album must have been a sign to their contemporaries to up the game a bit. Tull recognized that the scene was drifting from your average simple Blues oriented Rock to something that called for more stimulation. I imagine the intriguing and unique sounds of Benefit did a lot to build anticipation and the immediate success of the big one. I also think that Jethro Tull as a unit were always aware, around the time of Benefit, of what might be around the corner and not content to rest on their laurels. Which I suppose makes it all stranger when we had the band continuously touring a greatest hits set list prior to TAAB2. Makes it even more likely that IA had a writer's block or, as has been suggested elsewhere, poor advice.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 10, 2013 12:52:53 GMT
13 Ways Old People Are Keeping The Music Industry Alive! By Rob O'Connor | List Of The Day – 14 hours ago ca.music.yahoo.com/blogs/list-of-the-day/13-ways-old-people-keeping-music-industry-alive-220645228.html13) Jethro Tull -- Benefit (Collector's Edition): Long before they were the Grammy's favorite heavy metal band, Jethro Tull played progressively-folksier-rock. When the CD age first rolled around, Tull's record label apparently grabbed the cassettes out of their employees' cars and burned them to CD. In 2013, confident the CD age isn't just a phase, another label known for doing excellent work is releasing Tull's third album Benefit on October 29 in a Collector's Edition that will be a 2CD/DVD thingy with the album's original ten tracks plus five bonus tracks. Porcupine Tree's Steven Wilson, the man you want doing these types of things, mixed the album. A second disc includes rare tracks and singles and an audio-only DVD with the album in 5.1 Surround Sound comes out to 58 tracks. Dare I say, it'd be to your BENEFIT to check this out? --------------------------------------------------------------> Jethro Tull: "Benefit" será relançado em edição de luxo whiplash.net/materias/news_823/187968-jethrotull.html
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Post by Deleted on Sept 25, 2013 14:14:05 GMT
Tull in good company. By David Chiu / CBS News/ September 24, 2013, 11:53 AM What's old is new again: The best 2013 album reissues Read more: www.cbsnews.com/8301-207_162-57603006/whats-old-is-new-again-the-best-2013-album-reissues/Van Morrison's Moondance / Rhino Van Morrison Moondance (Deluxe Edition) Warner Bros./Rhino (Oct. 22) One of Van Morrison's greatest albums, "Moondance" (1970) is being given the deluxe treatment that not only features the remastered original album but also additional tracks consisting of studio outtakes and a previously unreleased song, "I Shall Sing," which was later covered by Art Garfunkel. "Moondance" is a romantic and spiritual cornerstone album of jazzy soul tunes containing two of the Irish legend's enduring songs -- the title track and "Crazy Love." Those who love the album will probably feast on the extras here on this expanded set. Jethro Tull's "Benefit" / Rhino Jethro Tull "Benefit" (Collector's Edition) Chrysalis/Rhino (Oct. 29) Led by the charismatic flautist/singer Ian Anderson, the English band's third album is a collection of progressive rock and folk tunes that Tull has been renowned for throughout its career, especially during the '70s period; it represents stylistic evolution from the group's more blues-influenced debut two years prior. Its well-known track is "To Cry You a Song," and a subsequent reissue in 2001 contains two other popular Tull songs that weren't on the original album: "Teacher" and "Witch's Promise." Probably most importantly to Tull fans, "Benefit" was the album that preceded the band's commercially successful breakthrough "Aqualung" in 1971. This new collector's edition of "Benefit" contains the original album and bonus, augmented by an audio-only DVD that have both the U.K. and U.S. versions of the record and its bonus tracks mixed in 5.1 surround sound. The Beatles' On Air: Live at the BBC Volume 2 / Apple Corps Ltd. The Beatles "On Air: Live at the BBC Volume 2" Capitol/UME (Nov. 11) It's always an event whenever the Fab Four releases something new from the archives, and this upcoming set is no exception. The sequel to the previous "Live at the BBC" collection from almost 20 years ago, "On Air" contains 63 total tracks of Beatles recordings for the British Broadcasting Corporation between 1963 and 1964 -- 37 of those musical performances are being released for the first time ever. Among them are familiar original classics such as "She Loves You," "Please Please Me," "I Saw Her Standing There" and "I Want to Hold Your Hand" -- and performances of songs written by others, including "Twist and Shout," "Roll Over Beethoven" "and Money (That's What I Want)." Augmented by spoken-word bits from each of the members, "On Air" captures the boys at their best in these vintage recordings -- perfectly timed to coincide with the 50th anniversary of their first trip to America next year. Hey, boy with the personal stereo: nothing `tween the ears but that hard rock sound. Playing to your empty room, empty guitar tune, No use waiting for that C.B.S. to come around. 'Cos all roads out of here, seem to lead right back to your Rock Island. Rock Island.
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