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Post by celtrock on Aug 23, 2010 17:03:02 GMT
Hello all,
Having read many of your posts I figured this would be the place to go in order to figure this out. I recently purchased a copy of JT's Stand Up on eBay, two color Reprise pressing, nothing extraordinary. What was a bit of a surprise is the fact that side one and side two, while having the correct side one and side two labels, are both music for side one. Was this a common thing? Did a bunch of these get released out to the masses? Has anyone heard of this before? I can look on the bright side, if New Day Yesterday or Bouree ever get scratched on one side there's always the other!
Cheers
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Post by maddogfagin on Aug 24, 2010 8:44:59 GMT
Hello all, Having read many of your posts I figured this would be the place to go in order to figure this out. I recently purchased a copy of JT's Stand Up on eBay, two color Reprise pressing, nothing extraordinary. What was a bit of a surprise is the fact that side one and side two, while having the correct side one and side two labels, are both music for side one. Was this a common thing? Did a bunch of these get released out to the masses? Has anyone heard of this before? I can look on the bright side, if New Day Yesterday or Bouree ever get scratched on one side there's always the other! Cheers Welcome to the Jethro Tull Forum Celtrock. A good place to be and I hope you'll enjoy reading the posts etc. As for your vinyl album - this happened quite a lot in the days of dear old vinyl with all companies. The Beatles catalogue here in the UK had this problem many times due I suspect to sloppy quality control and untrained workers at the EMI pressing plants and I've no doubt it happened a lot in other countries. If the person who sold you the album on ebay didn't state that there was a problem then you probably have a case to put to the powers that be at ebay and the seller themselves. Unfortunately it does not add to the value of the disc however. Anyway, welcome along and I hope you have a great time. Maddog
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Post by nonrabbit on Aug 24, 2010 10:04:02 GMT
Welcome to the Board celtrock - liking the name ;D "jump in , look around, find yourself some fun" and start talking in Tull tongues
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Post by Deleted on Aug 24, 2010 14:35:26 GMT
Hello all, Having read many of your posts I figured this would be the place to go in order to figure this out. I recently purchased a copy of JT's Stand Up on eBay, two color Reprise pressing, nothing extraordinary. What was a bit of a surprise is the fact that side one and side two, while having the correct side one and side two labels, are both music for side one. Was this a common thing? Did a bunch of these get released out to the masses? Has anyone heard of this before? I can look on the bright side, if New Day Yesterday or Bouree ever get scratched on one side there's always the other! Cheers Welcome to the Jethro Tull Forum Celtrock. A good place to be and I hope you'll enjoy reading the posts etc. As for your vinyl album - this happened quite a lot in the days of dear old vinyl with all companies. The Beatles catalogue here in the UK had this problem many times due I suspect to sloppy quality control and untrained workers at the EMI pressing plants and I've no doubt it happened a lot in other countries. If the person who sold you the album on ebay didn't state that there was a problem then you probably have a case to put to the powers that be at ebay and the seller themselves. Unfortunately it does not add to the value of the disc however. Anyway, welcome along and I hope you have a great time. Maddog You can find this sort of problem in the CD age, too: I have a Beatles' 'Blue Album' 1967-1970 disc 2 pressed on a 'Red Album' 1962-1966 disc 2. EMI Music Canada + Welcome celtrock Cheers -tootull
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Post by maddogfagin on Aug 24, 2010 15:21:11 GMT
Welcome to the Jethro Tull Forum Celtrock. A good place to be and I hope you'll enjoy reading the posts etc. As for your vinyl album - this happened quite a lot in the days of dear old vinyl with all companies. The Beatles catalogue here in the UK had this problem many times due I suspect to sloppy quality control and untrained workers at the EMI pressing plants and I've no doubt it happened a lot in other countries. If the person who sold you the album on ebay didn't state that there was a problem then you probably have a case to put to the powers that be at ebay and the seller themselves. Unfortunately it does not add to the value of the disc however. Anyway, welcome along and I hope you have a great time. Maddog You can find this sort of problem in the CD age, too: I have a Beatles' 'Blue Album' 1967-1970 disc 2 pressed on a 'Red Album' 1962-1966 disc 2. EMI Music Canada + Welcome celtrock Cheers -tootull While we're on the subject, and it's a warning really to anybody buying from ebay or similar, the 1990 Raw Fruit CD titled "Jethro Tull Live at Hammersmith '84" disc suffered from the "bronzing" effect which meant that in bad cases it didn't play. I managed to get my copy replaced some time ago when the PDO manufacturers had a helpline and replacement service but this has now closed and you can't get replacements. It is the only Tull CD I've ever found which had this "bronzing" though. I would advise anyone buying this particular CD to question the seller as to the condition of the CD and if it has turned brown, don't buy it.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 24, 2010 15:42:00 GMT
You can find this sort of problem in the CD age, too: I have a Beatles' 'Blue Album' 1967-1970 disc 2 pressed on a 'Red Album' 1962-1966 disc 2. EMI Music Canada + Welcome celtrock Cheers -tootull While we're on the subject, and it's a warning really to anybody buying from ebay or similar, the 1990 Raw Fruit CD titled "Jethro Tull Live at Hammersmith '84" disc suffered from the "bronzing" effect which meant that in bad cases it didn't play. I managed to get my copy replaced some time ago when the PDO manufacturers had a helpline and replacement service but this has now closed and you can't get replacements. It is the only Tull CD I've ever found which had this "bronzing" though. I would advise anyone buying this particular CD to question the seller as to the condition of the CD and if it has turned brown, don't buy it. My CD looked like this from day one. It plays with no problem. s1015.photobucket.com/albums/af278/tootull/?action=view¤t=LIveatHammersmith1984-1.jpg
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Post by maddogfagin on Aug 24, 2010 17:24:04 GMT
My original copy was as bad as that. I'd advise you make a back-up copy asap 'cos, as sure as eggs are eggs*, it will stop playing shortly. My replacement copy obtained in '95 [*A quaint British saying that my grandmother used to say at Easter. She used to put vegetable dye in the water when boiling eggs and we used to get every colour under the sun - blue, green and my favourite, purple.]
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Post by Deleted on Aug 25, 2010 16:33:46 GMT
My original copy was as bad as that. I'd advise you make a back-up copy asap 'cos, as sure as eggs are eggs*, it will stop playing shortly. My replacement copy obtained in '95 [*A quaint British saying that my grandmother used to say at Easter. She used to put vegetable dye in the water when boiling eggs and we used to get every colour under the sun - blue, green and my favourite, purple.] Yes, I have a CDR or two. All Tull is safe enough this way. ;D
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Post by Deleted on Aug 27, 2010 14:59:42 GMT
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Post by maddogfagin on Aug 27, 2010 16:23:29 GMT
The playing side of "bronzed" cds always looks ok as it is the reflective coating that degrades the cd and this is always seen on the label side of the cd, so I've been told. When I first heard of the problem back in '94/'95 I went through my collection, found 5 or so brown cds and sent them back to PDO as per their helpdesk advice and got them replaced. All of these replacements have subsequently been ok. Still it's a piece of advice to anyone thinking of buying used cds to check that they haven't aged in such a way.
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